Frontlines are so slow now

[Jettinson]

I believe it. BRD is actually really good right now.

It has always been a good pick just for Silence alone and because Purify is still awful to use.

But I do not know why we went talking about 1v1 in a FL game unless you talk about Borderline Secure which honestly people mess around most of the time.
But since Ransu got the idea I constantly fight with no battle high where I didn't say any of that and got the idea that every class fights equal with battle high max against melees(which is another cans of worms to discuss in terms of balance, at least it is not Rival Wings where you just get LB refill fast at max stack).

You are not going to see a Summoner happily 1v1 a melee, not with that horrid kit. A Dancer has to spam En Avant to even make some difference with Saber Dance and Red Mage has to rely on meleeing of all things and so on.

A Dragoon can just murder or harass a Bard, anyone can do it your 20 second Silence be damned if you are alone. But in that regard it makes sense because melee SHOULD be scary for their damage and what mayhem they can cause, not straight up being hyper tanky.

[Elfidan]

It has always been a good pick just for Silence alone and because Purify is still awful to use.

But I do not know why we went talking about 1v1 in a FL game unless you talk about Borderline Secure which honestly people mess around most of the time.
But since Ransu got the idea I constantly fight with no battle high where I didn't say any of that and got the idea that every class fights equal with battle high max against melees(which is another cans of worms to discuss in terms of balance, at least it is not Rival Wings where you just get LB refill fast at max stack).

The silence is great when applied at the right time, but I don't think BRD begins and ends there. Setting up your burst is a big part of 1v1 on most jobs. It does really well at zoning people thanks to the bind and warden's paean.

1v1 happen a decent amount as do 2v1 3v2 and the like. Not everyone can be NIN and RP walk away whenever they feel like it. Building BH early is pretty big but it's not always possible and depends on the team. I mean, it's just a flat 50% damage buff not like it's super technical, and tons of people never manage to get past BH1 because they are so busy trying to be the chad that scored 10 k.o. with skyshitter. I try not to play secure if I can help it.

You are not going to see a Summoner happily 1v1 a melee, not with that horrid kit. A Dancer has to spam En Avant to even make some difference with Saber Dance and Red Mage has to rely on meleeing of all things and so on.

A Dragoon can just murder or harass a Bard, anyone can do it your 20 second Silence be damned if you are alone. But in that regard it makes sense because melee SHOULD be scary for their damage and what mayhem they can cause, not straight up being hyper tanky.

It's funny you bring up summoner. I have a clip of an unfortunate SMN who thought chasing me down was a good idea.

I mean casting on RDM kind of feels bad most of the time because it's almost like a punishment for burning through melee combo and not managing a K.O.

DRG and RPR are pretty much in the same boat. Timing silence or bind correctly ruins their rhythm during burst. Most people who get caught at unawares by a DRG initiating are going to have a bad time regardless of the job.

I really like DNC in terms of power at the moment, but I would never 1v1 with it given the choice.

I think most people want to see DR adjustments. It took 8 years to fix animation lock on pve DRG so I guess we should "Look Forward to It." heh.

[Jettinson]

Since you're a BRD, you're easily building battle high because their buffs, including their LB, counts as assist whenever your teammates defeat someone. It's difficult for a job like RDM to build battle high unless they're diving to packs and hoping for not targeted...

With Red Mage you can use the buff/debuff skill to help you out on assists. Magick Barrier from white shift also counts as an assist just the same with Frazzle. You are probably going to contribute without diving at that point unless you can safely do that just to overwhelm someone similar to Summoner... but outside of that it can be rough and your damage isn't helping that much.

[Llynethil]

Only way you solo a melee job on FL as bard is if he's half hp, has everything on cooldown and has 600 ping, that or the ones you face are just keyboard turners that are horrible at the game.

Bards are freelo for melee jobs on frontlines including tanks, you outheal, outdamage and outtank a bard 1v1 every single time, and bard doesn't have enough peel to keep them away long enough to prevent getting destroyed, not to mention you can't LB as bard in 1v1, they can.

I love bard on frontlines, but you get absolutely destroyed by any melee in a 1v1 that has half a clue about how their job works, but if you stay at the back you can destroy them with your teams' help very well using silence.

[Towa-Musa]

Hey guys, remember when dragoon could do something like this?

https://youtu.be/z_Jk3foEm_U

[Nikoto]

Hey guys, remember when dragoon could do something like this?

https://youtu.be/z_Jk3foEm_U

That doofus was dead from the fall anyway, but I do miss spear throw.

[Towa-Musa]

That doofus was dead from the fall anyway, but I do miss spear throw.

lol yeah, i miss it too.

[Nanne]

Hey guys, remember when dragoon could do something like this?

https://youtu.be/z_Jk3foEm_U

The days when in Feast DRG had to do nothing but throw spears until burst was up because throwing spears was more damage than the main combo overall

[KenaiChoppa]

I like the flow of the current Frontlines, but you are right in pointing out that people just spam healing and get away without losing anything.

I think they should change the healing skill for a shield that covers 100% of the damage during some time (not like our current "bubble"), to allow you to get away if you messed up or you team leaved you behind. Other option is just elevate the MP of the cure skill on frontlines

[Elfidan]

I think it's less about Recuperate and more about certain jobs just having a massive kit compared to others. Trying to compare jobs with 6-8 buttons to things like NIN and MCH that have double that thanks to action swaps is kind of silly. Especially when those buttons include a ton of CC or mitigation and healing.
I wish animation wasn't more important than gameplay too though. Press guard see bubble appear die anyway because your character hasn't fully curled into a ball.