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  1. #1
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    Asari5's Avatar
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Zodiark
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    Dragoon Lv 100

    19 jobs on one character

    this game has an amazing system to change jobs whenever you like... whenever you need to be another role. its a huge plus for many people. yet aside from role and follow up quests it doesnt make use of it. why is that?

    there is barely content you can change your job in. now this makes sense in a lot of content but not everywhere. in the new special dungeon you can change your job... but you get a looong cooldown and therefore boring waiting time if you do that.... for no reason.
    in bozja you can change your job... but whenever you do it you lose your potionbuffs and therefor its a waste of lost skills... sry dead people on the ground i cant rezz you

    we have 19 jobs if you dont like one you can just switch to another one, its perfect to create jobs with different playstyles and difficulties.... not every person has to be able to play every job.

    we're getting reworks over reworks. of course its never every player who likes a job, but thats fine. but even well liked jobs are getting a rework... why not just stop with new skills if these jobs are in a good spot? if players get bored... there are still 18 other jobs they can play til they wanna switch back. and there will be new players who wont ever be able to play these skill sets. instead skill sets get stretched out over more and more lvl making low lvl content even more boring.

    we have this great system for switching jobs, for playing everything we want. why nog making use of it more?

    edit: the game also doesnt help you in any wayif you wanna play several jobs in endgame. the gearing process isnt made for seceral jobs
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    Last edited by Asari5; 11-12-2022 at 03:29 PM.

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    Remolia's Avatar
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    Remi Poemi
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I have conjurer, the only class I need to play the game >.>
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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Remolia View Post
    I have conjurer, the only class I need to play the game >.>
    Sarcasm, right
    please tell me you use your job stone
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    Tiramu's Avatar
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    Tira Mu
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    Sarcasm, right
    please tell me you use your job stone
    Could be an interesting challenge
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    WHM / BLM / SMN / NIN/ DNC / Omnicrafter and Gatherer

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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Marauder Lv 82
    While I agree on the spirit of what you're trying to say. I dont think its also healthy to let a job stagnate while newer or other jobs get better toolkits just because that job feels "perfect" in a current expansion. If this was a single player game, sure that mentality fits perfectly but in an evolving MMO, its also ok to allow jobs to evolve to keep up with the game. Job reworks happen due to either:

    A. the class's current design has reached its full potential within its cycle in the game (ex. being Dragoon)
    B. the class needs to be able to keep up with the current game design (ex Summoner)

    Yes I understand not many people like to hear this or feels its "blasphemous" to have their beloved jobs change. But I also feel players fall into that other extreme where they dont want to allow their favorite class progress in some form just because change is a very scary thing for many of us. Now granted! Im not saying all changes the dev team makes are good. Thats been an obvious case with the current raid meta with the problem of their 2 minute burst window design.

    As for changing jobs on the fly in more content, I would agree on it but you're also obviously ignoring on the balance needed for allowing this to be a thing in dungeon, trial and raid content. Its part of the giving us more freedom on making builds, its an idea that sounds great on paper but its something that the meta min/maxers will just ruin the fun due to also being our nature to find the most optimal and efficient route to doing big numbers. Also this would theoretically force other players to pick up jobs they dont like for the sake of getting into parties. It'll be a mess, this is why they originally had this idea in some form, long ago with Cross-class skills but the concept failed miserably.
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    Remolia's Avatar
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    Remi Poemi
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    Omega
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    Sarcasm, right
    please tell me you use your job stone

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    Payotz's Avatar
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    Payotz Reading
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    Cactuar
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Remolia View Post
    Holy fuck that's hilarious LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Here I present you the new healer tutorial in FFXIV :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlc-QtQxGys&list=PLvHbKTvfkkvI6D__Pg84M_18NhpPR3ojs

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    Zebra Rune
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Remolia View Post
    Oh lord you're one of those. I very much hope you don't grief people in dungeons/trials and just do stuff with trusts...

    EDIT: Reading your posts, you very much are... Gross.
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    Last edited by Zebraoracle; 11-13-2022 at 12:44 PM.

  9. #9
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    Reimmi's Avatar
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    Nia Niyah
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    Hyperion
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    Oh lord you're one of those. I very much hope you don't grief people in dungeons/trials and just do stuff with trusts...

    EDIT: Reading your posts, you very much are... Gross.
    Yeah... thats reportable for griefing
    Unless they don't queue for any duties
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    Aylin Bielawska
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    Adamantoise
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    As a healer main, considering the state of healing, at the moment, I don't see any problem with Remolia's approach. It's not as if they won't have all they need to take care of the party for 90% of content.

    On topic, I, too, am disappointed with the limitations on the job system. I was hoping to see more interactivity between jobs learned, but we ended up going in the opposite direction.
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