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    Zebraoracle's Avatar
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    Zebra Rune
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    If Bozja already covers 80-90, why are they bothering with a new Deep Dungeon in the first place?

    Could it be... because Bozja is not Deep Dungeon content..?
    Or maybe because Bozja just gives so much exp that for DPS jobs it's faster to do that than wait in dungeon queues...
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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    If Bozja already covers 80-90, why are they bothering with a new Deep Dungeon in the first place?

    Could it be... because Bozja is not Deep Dungeon content..?
    It couldn't possibly be because of feedback from the players having missed out on Deep Dungeon last expansion and wanting to see more. No, it has to be something else.
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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It couldn't possibly be because of feedback from the players having missed out on Deep Dungeon last expansion and wanting to see more. No, it has to be something else.
    Yeah. We're getting DD this round because people liked Deep Dungeon content and asked for it.
    It's not because Bozja's not DD or anything, and the more we feed this obtuse view of their purpose the less brain cells remain alive.
    It's because people asked for DD to be added. So, this expansion, rather than getting Explorations, we're getting V&C dungeons. And then we're getting a third DD as requested.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    OP's post was literally about the experience being available for lower level characters. You are the one who moved the goalpost past that.
    The OP's title alone was that. The actual post had more context, including asking why Eureka was made/left so useless to leveling (e.g., why players couldn't just level jobs without gaps through just Exploratory Missions if they so pleased, or even the EM of their choice?).

    It essentially comes down to, "Hey, would there be time enough through adjustments to HoH's ceiling or Othas's floor to allow one to level just through DD if they wanted? If so, I'd really like that. (Aside, might the same be done for Exploratory Missions)?"

    Your responses have been, to put it mildly, pretty damn aggressive:
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    <The only appeal of DD could only ever be EXP grinding, so all means of EXP grinding are literally the same thing and therefore there's already functionally a 70-80 DD (Bozja) despite it playing nothing like a DD.>
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    <Anyone asking not to have content variety arbitrarily gated or forced into alternation is "moronic".>
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    <Anyone who feels that any part of DD and Exploratory Missions aren't identical are "obtuse" and lead to brain cell death.>
    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    <Anyone asking not to have content variety arbitrarily gated must be an entitled PoS. (Now let me whataboutism shortfalls that, while more impactful, aren't nearly so easily addressed.)>


    Like... why? I get that you think Bozja would be risk and want to protect a favored content form here...
    --though you've yet to point out how 4-man content that tends to be much less exp-efficient than it would somehow starve it of players, especially if you're right in that the two are identical content forms and only played for job-leveling... despite your preferring one over the other for reasons other than exp generation--
    ...but how is that level of vitriol remotely necessary?
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 11-13-2022 at 03:18 PM.

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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
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    Rezef Enoshima
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Bozja was the ShB way to level up fro. 71 to 80. The new deep dungeon is for EW therefore it makes full sense if it is for 81 to 90 in my opinion.
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    Bukachu's Avatar
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    Buka Chu
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    Raiden
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    I hope it will be focused on making the content as good as possible, not another fast exp leveling for people leveling their 17th job that they'll never touch after maxing out.
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    Rolan Stratus
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Also haha necro thread.
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    Player Ravenblade1979's Avatar
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    Anastasia Minou-rose
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    Adamantoise
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Do people just wake up and go "hmm how can I spark attention on the forums"
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