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    GateTheMage's Avatar
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    Gate Duwwhuga
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    SCH doesn't need a full rework and I wish people who don't play SCH or aren't SCH mains would stop asking for that. What SCH needs is more of its gutted DPS kit restored, not a "rework" in the vein of other jobs.
    I honestly disagree with this take. I would call myself a SCH enjoyer it is not my main but it is a backup class that I have savage raided with and if I did not enjoy or have a decent grasp on the class I would not be playing it. The main things being Scholars identity, the reason why Scholar is well Scholar, is their Faerie being extremely under utilized in the current content that it is in. The Faerie at max level 100 has 6 abilities. this is not including Seraphism because that is something similar to what Reaper does just for healing. Oh and your comment about them being the best shield healer compared to sage in rDPS, which isnt true by the way, they are the lowest rDPS healer with WHM in a very close second. Oh lets not get started on the fact that the faerie gauge has only one use and thats to be used with the faerie tether nothing else. There is a lot of things the SCH does really well and thing that their abilities are really cool. but I also think that Scholar needs a rework similar to Summoner where there abilities feel more closely tied to their Identity and they Faerie who is kind of just sitting in the background. the best way for me to compare it to is how clunky and extra old summoner was.
    Was old summoner fun and interesting? Yes they were their bane and bio combo dotes was very interesting.
    But were they really a summoner? In my opinion, no they weren't their summons took a back line to those DoTs and doing Damage through them and not their summons who you only chose one really for the entire fight then just let them just sit there. For example, Ifrit egi was mainly used if you were in a trial and single targeting since it had the most DPS potential but not that great with AOE, Garuda egi was your AOE user which was for dungeons clearing but not great with single targeting, and Titan Egi was your defensive egi which could do damage yes but they didnt compare to Ifrit or Garuda and was better for shields and was almost never used because changing your Egis in higher level content was not a good idea unless you had the available downtime.
    In conclusion just to summarize, is SCH good? yes they are but not for the reason you are stating. Scholar is an interesting and fun class but they are held back by older abilities and mechanics from an era that has past and do need to find their Identity in their Faerie. Much like Summoner who's identity as a Summoner was not there in there old system and became more focused on their summons I think that Scholar can be too and be able to have their abilities reflect that without some of their abilities just being there not being utilized because they are not useful in most scenarios.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GateTheMage View Post
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    But this works on the fact that SCH’s identity is a fairie mage- which it isn’t, SCH’s identity is military tactician, even in ARR and HW the fairie still occupied about the same amount of its kit as it does now

    SCH’s “make it smooth like butter but kinda brainless” a la EW SMN already exists- it’s SGE, SCH doesn’t need to also go down the same path and it looks like square acknowledges this as Seraphism conflicts with recitation which looks to be an intentional design

    SCH is also second behind AST in rDPS and it’ll likely rise higher as people stack crit, it’s already second even though we current have near no crit, it’ll definitely be fighting for first leaving SGE and WHM in the dust in like week 3 of savage
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Tolo Rewd
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by GateTheMage View Post
    But were they really a summoner? In my opinion, no they weren't their summons took a back line to those DoTs and doing Damage through them and not their summons
    When was the last time you played SMN, ARR?
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