EndWalker's Deep Dungeon

[Moebious]

Allagans, again?

I somehow expected it to be around Elpis styles Deep Dungeon, since they've got 2 big facilities with hugely changing and varied environments, Ktisis Hyperboreia and Pandaemonium. So we could have all element potential areas, along with maybe even Moon or the flying islands connected, at the later stages, to fulfill the mystery akin to PotD's 151+ floors.

But since we're dealing with Eureka here, I hope, we might get actual Eureka zone aesthetics once past the Allagan initial story floors? I would love to see some expanded Anemos, Pagos, Pryos, and Hydatos zone visuals. And even better yet, they could easily utilize all the more dangerous and special notorious Bosses from each zone, which have the usual fun instant death mechanics, more Ceto and Ying-Yang madness!

Eureka floor variations from all the different environments please, don't want the claustrophobic floors all through it all, which is exactly why 151+ PotD was so great, both in visual style and general open design, able to actually see things from far away, nothing worse than getting sneaked up upon by some huge patrolling Gozu, because of how they designed the floors 81+ in HoH.

Still would have liked some flying islands, and high mystery floors past a certain point, if they really stick to Eureka themed, I hope for laws of nature being flip flopped, and the visual style isn't anything like Allagan at all, for the most part. HoH already had plenty of Allagan weird lore, which fell flat on its face compared to PotD.

It all being 90 lvl kit though, will be hilarious for some jobs, unless they introduce some form of special actions.

[KageTokage]

It's likely this is the Eureka of legend the isles of Eureka were named for, which in all likelyhood makes it some manner of facility beneath the Crystal Tower so I'm not expecting much in the way of references in that regard.

[Lelila38]

It's likely this is the Eureka of legend the isles of Eureka were named for, which in all likelyhood makes it some manner of facility beneath the Crystal Tower so I'm not expecting much in the way of references in that regard.

I don't know too much about the actual Eureka. Would you explain more, please?
I get it's Allagan, but what should I expect?

[KageTokage]

One of the NPCs at the camp in Eureka Pyros talks about it, but it's just vaguely believed to be the same as its FF III counterpart: a labyrinth filled with ancient and powerful weapons.

On an unrelated note pertaining to the actual difficulty of the dungeon, the fact that enemies no longer crit in ShB onwards is really significant for solo runs because you can easily die from bad crit RNG in both PotD and HoH on the later floors.

[SannaR]

@Midareyukki what other ancient civilization would you want to be explored? We keep on running into their tech and learning about them due to how well their stuff survived for over thousands of years. The three main nations of the Magi war have places you can still see and find remnants of. Any other great nation that doesn't exist anymore tend to not have much information about them that have survived since the era they existed in. Part of that is due to three old dudes who were bitter wrecking those places up. The other is due to how some of the ages played out. Like if how the rulers of an age didn't want the average person to know how to read and write or what little we know about the fourth Astral Era is from oral tradition. Who knows how accurate anything we know from that era is. Other places we could explore more about I feel they'll want to explore with variant dungeons if this first one is anything to go by.

[dspguy]

I feel like they missed a golden opportunity with the location of this dungeon. Given the various FFIV throwbacks in Endwalker, what better place for the deep dungeon than the Lunar Subterrain?

[Atelier-Bagur]

I don't know too much about the actual Eureka. Would you explain more, please?
I get it's Allagan, but what should I expect?

Originally the dev team planned to make content during the CT raid series where you explore Eureka that was underneath the Crystal Tower. This (just like the entire CT story) is based off Eureka from FFIII where it was an optional endgame dungeon underneath the tower that housed ultimate weapons and the Ninja and Sage jobs.

That was why you had Nero get excited over the aetheric readings during that one cutscene, alluding to Eureka.

However they scrapped the idea and retooled it into the exploratory isle in Stormblood. This however seems theyre finally going back to that old idea and giving it fruition

[Oizen]

Allagans and Ascians go hand in hand. As it was noted earlier, this is likely the loose end from CT that was bound to be tied up before we properly go off on our new adventures.




Yoshi was upset about delaying Endwalker's release, not the new dev cycle.

If you paid attention to the release schedule announcement, they get extra time off in December and at some point in the summer.

I'm specifically talking about the live letter before 6.1 btw.

[Nikoto]

I took a guess at Garlemald's subway train tracks, but eh

[Poporito_Popoto]

Guessing that this is what they wanted for Shadowbringers, but delayed it due to Covid. That was when Crystal Tower was made a requirement to run.