Dimishing returns

[Zar66]

New to pvp and it seems to be a cc / stun fest? any reason there are no diminishing returns or if they are they must be so bad they don't work?

[Elfidan]

They exist but the durations adjustments make no difference in a mode where more than a 1 second in a loss of control is generally death. They also aren't shared across effects so yes you can be stunned then miracled then silenced which is generally what a decently organized team will do to dispatch spicey problems. As for Frontline DR wouldn't save you 99% of them time if more than 2 people are targeting you anyway.

[NorthernLadMSP]

We used to have them in PVP, but then the geniuses at SE removed them in Endwalker.

[Necrotica]

wish there was more to it, but yeah.

the pvp design team just sucks at their job

[Rufalus]

Chain CC feels bad. I think a game is fundamentally broken if it has to basically disconnect your controller in order to eliminate people. Still searching for a way that PvP can work in this game engine if at all possible. They've had some success with modes and rewards but inherent flaws in combat will probably always remain.

[Elfidan]

I don't think chain CC feels bad as long as it's multiple people using pieces of their kit, but then there's WHM which can solo chain CC people.

[Kansene]

It definitely doesn't feel like diminishing returns exist. I've gone from a 3 sec stun to another 3 sec stun to another 3 sec stun quite often.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

It definitely doesn't feel like diminishing returns exist. I've gone from a 3 sec stun to another 3 sec stun to another 3 sec stun quite often.

Because it doesn't. It USED to...but now your controls can get taken away from you for as long as the enemy is able to chain you.

[Elfidan]

It doesn't much matter if stun goes from a 3 second to a 2 second to a 1 second then immune though. You die from burst in a second if your ability to heal is blocked and it's even easier if you get bound then stunned then silenced which happens often enough.

[Zar66]

ok so its not just me then bad design. Got it ok cool thanks for the update! dipped my toe in pvp but i play games to "play them" not watch my healthbar go to zero and have no input lol. ill stick to the well designed part of the game.