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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    They've mentioned they can budget better if they know how much money they'll be getting via the subscription count.
    It was in response to a free to play model.

    So if people can maybe sometimes get months free via gil if they so desire it, they may not have the revenue stream they project.
    So I doubt they'll be changing the sub models any time soon.
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    Aserana Swian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    They've mentioned they can budget better if they know how much money they'll be getting via the subscription count.
    It was in response to a free to play model.

    So if people can maybe sometimes get months free via gil if they so desire it, they may not have the revenue stream they project.
    So I doubt they'll be changing the sub models any time soon.
    The model wouldn't change.

    A sub would always be paid for, just not necessarily by the person paying with gil.
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Feline Good
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    Players would scream. Plus wouldn't they have to sell it at prices competitive to the gil sellers?
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    Nia Niyah
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    After what the wow token did to wow, i do not want that anywhere near ff14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    After what the wow token did to wow, i do not want that anywhere near ff14
    What did the WOW token do to WOW?
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    Kujata
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    What did the WOW token do to WOW?
    Use real money to buy token - sell token for gold - use gold to buy carry or gear or weps = pay to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Use real money to buy token - sell token for gold - use gold to buy carry or gear or weps = pay to win.
    Many of those people will be buying gold away from the system if this wasn't in place, so not much changes.

    Crafted gear is (mostly) pointless, and by the time somebody can carry you in a dungeon/raid, the gear from that is old news.
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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Use real money to buy token - sell token for gold - use gold to buy carry or gear or weps = pay to win.
    Because you totally cant buy gil and then buy carries or weapons right ? It's totally not rampant right ?

    Oh wait it isssss !
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    Alfimi Einst
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    What did the WOW token do to WOW?
    At worse: Until they made the Trade service channel and cracked down on Raid Finder tool you would see a wall of spam of people selling runs for gold and "gold but you have to join this discord channel to finalize the deal" still see it a bit today but not nearly as bad.

    At best: I personally haven't payed cash money for a sub since I learned how to play the AH right post Brutosaur.

    Yeah there are some good aspects to it. If you know what you are doing you can basically get someone else to pay your sub and expansions(and in blizzard case and could work with SE too other games and items).

    But it does open the door for some stuff. But 14 doesn't really have BoE's like WoW does so in might not be as bad. Or they might limit what you can get with the token like limit it in some shape or form. You can gil cap in 14 somewhat easier than you can in WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaciscokidd View Post
    At worse: Until they made the Trade service channel and cracked down on Raid Finder tool you would see a wall of spam of people selling runs for gold and "gold but you have to join this discord channel to finalize the deal" still see it a bit today but not nearly as bad.

    At best: I personally haven't payed cash money for a sub since I learned how to play the AH right post Brutosaur.

    Yeah there are some good aspects to it. If you know what you are doing you can basically get someone else to pay your sub and expansions(and in blizzard case and could work with SE too other games and items).

    But it does open the door for some stuff. But 14 doesn't really have BoE's like WoW does so in might not be as bad. Or they might limit what you can get with the token like limit it in some shape or form. You can gil cap in 14 somewhat easier than you can in WoW.
    People have always sold runs for gold in WOW. It isn't anything new. I would argue that the introduction of the achievement system in Lich King really set that part in motion. People wanted those achievements to get into legit runs, and paying for them with gold seemed the best way.
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