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    Player
    Kansene's Avatar
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    Rajeko Thunderbright
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 98
    While I understand that the way to win most FLs is to gather in one big zergy pile and flood the enemy team, it's pretty ridiculous to be 6 people vs 1 melee and just know that this person will most likely be able to eat all our CC, tank all our damage, and effortlessly just run away from all of us because they're a melee.
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    Llynethil's Avatar
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    Character
    Llynethil Kindle
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 90
    Overall dr should be nerfed fo everyone, but remaining dr shouldn't even be across the board for a type of job.

    There's no reason a ninja with the mobility, healing and shielding it has should have same dr as a dragoon or reaper with the mobility they have, they should have next to none and melee players in general need to learn better positioning instead.
    If you jump in first into a 1v5 as ninja or monk, you should get deleted instantly within a second, you're being an idiot doing that, your job is to wait for tanks or a dragoon or something to engage first, then you go in and start killing backliners, who also need their dr nerfed aswell.

    If you don't get that, don't play a job like that.

    Before this dr crap, if you played like this, you'd get tons of kills blowing up bards, black mages, healers easily because they all already spent their skills on the frontliners and have nothing left.

    But nah, better go in first and facetank 7 people, then complain on the forum to become a tank yourself.
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    Esmoire's Avatar
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    Character
    Mei Coincounter
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    They should reduce the damage reduction, but I think we need CC immunities back (in FL/RW), for all jobs. Also worth re-examining battle high.
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    Latarma's Avatar
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    Character
    Latarma Asura
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    i'll say it again and again till blue in the face battle high has to go and if you want faire balance then you need to be ok with mages/rng being extra squashy. the ease of kill sould be caster/rang/healer then melee then tanks. but no job sould be able to hold ground ageists more then 2 people. also CC seems t be a big issue ether remove cc from the game or every job gets one. the same applies to limits breaks that can be guarded. you can guard all lbs or no lbs.
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    Last edited by Latarma; 11-08-2022 at 06:14 AM.

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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Leaving my SAM in Kugane
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    Character
    Raansu Omiyari
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Latarma View Post
    i'll say it again and again till blur in the batte high has to go and fi you want faire balance then toy need to be ok with mages/rng being extra squssiy. the ease of kill sould be caster/rang/healer then melee then tanks. but no job sould be able to hold ground ageists more then 2 people. also it seemt ob e a big issues ether remove cc fromt he game or every job gets one. the same applies to limits breaks that can be guarded. you can guard all lbs or no lbs.
    I need a translator...
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    Towa-Musa's Avatar
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    Character
    Towa Musa
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    60% Defense is too much that you can't kill them easily...
    no because that would require Yoshi p to admit he was wrong, cant have that....
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Character
    Firemage Li
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Reimmi View Post
    You really just like having bad takes on these forums huh.
    Nobodys asking to remove the dr entirely but a ninja that is 99% ranged as is with the best defensives and good mobility with damage reduction is stupid as hell
    Git gud 5head
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    Player Knot_D's Avatar
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    Character
    Jock Destroyer
    World
    Asura
    Main Class
    Culinarian Lv 80
    I even have hard time to stay alive as RDM who need to do melee combo most of the time... I know White Shift is the option but still not good on the packs

    Probably same thing with SGE as well, that's why these 2 jobs aren't popular in Frontlines... They need that damage reduction
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