Thoughts on restricting ress more?

[angienessyo]

I hope they hardcore restrict raises so RDM can stop being so penalized for having one. I haven't minded the limited rezzes in stuff like Criterion or BA at all. Can I carry casual content when I'm on RDM and I'm above level 64 because of raise? Yes. But does anyone learn anything or improve when I'm rezzing them 5 times? Probably not. It's really not that much of a benefit outside of content without an enrage where you can just drag people to the finish line with a RDM, and I don't think being dragged to the finish line is all that fun for anyone.

[TaleraRistain]

I'm going to assume you don't play a healer. I appreciate my backup rezzes because PUGs are often pear shaped and they can mean the difference between success and failure when we have those classes. The reason you can see something like that now in Eden Titan is because we over ilevel that content enough that it can be downed with multiple people down. That wasn't the case when it was current. Rezzes are fine. If you're really that opposed to them, make parties with like-minded people and intentionally limit your rezzes.

And we see more damage down because dps and others were too happy to stand in everything and didn't care if they died because they were too worried about their numbers. Now they get something that actually makes them do the mechanics.

[Conadrium]

I do play healer and also summoner. I’ve dragged quite a few parties across the finish line with ress after ress. DR pugs especially lol…

[Deveryn]

I do play healer and also summoner. I’ve dragged quite a few parties across the finish line with ress after ress. DR pugs especially lol…

I've done this as well, even in some extreme fights. It's very satisfying (even though people can be ungrateful )


It bothers me to think they've actually considered dropping raise from summoner.

[RobynDaBank]

Weird thing to say, but this reminds me of Path of Exile where the developers admitted to balancing the super hard boss fights around the player being able to log out and save their character with no penalty. When you have the option to completely tap out of a fight and not go back to it, you have a greater luxury of making it hard so that the player returns more prepared and relatively unharmed (compared to if the character was in Hardcore mode and couldn't log out to safety, dying to the tough fight and losing the character forever).

Possibly the fights in FFXIV are balanced around being able to Resurrect and not caring about resurrect sickness, to a point. OFC it's not even like FFXIV allows this everywhere, like Baldesion Arsenal and Savage Criterion.

[NekoMataMata]

Rezzes are rarely enough to save a run in Unreal/Extreme/Savage. They're pretty fine elsewhere.

I mean healing in casual content in general is slightly overpowered compared to the more difficult content out there. And that's to be expected. There's nothing really wrong with it.

[PirateRyanG]

Nope.

PUGs are not always great with the mechanics.

I have had several PUGs where more than 1 person has been one-shot because they failed at the mechanics. Happens a ton of Ultima Weapon. I don't think there is a one-shot there, but certainly times when you could die in 2 shots without the healer being able to get a heal off on you.

Me being able to res at least one of them means that we rarely fail at the fight. In PUG dungeons, I only ever drop the res when swiftcast is up. Don't have time for those 8-second reses. If the fight lasts long enough, the second person will get resed too.

If I had no res, the whole thing starts again.

I think a lot of non-healers fail to realise the amount of damage the players take. It isn't their concern, but one slip-up from anybody (especially the healer), and everybody is dead.

[Alleo]

No I am fine with the way it is. I dont want to have to suffer who knows how many trys for normal content just because we wipe when someone dies. That just feels like a playground for toxic people. In really hard content a dead can already mess up the whole run and I see no reason why one should bring this to the casual content too.

And I you wanna have it harder just do the dungeon with NCPs. There you wipe if you die. I can tell you that even though I enjoy running it with NPCs it makes every mistake you do quite risky. I would not want to have that with randoms that unlike the npcs are not programmed to do the right thing.

[Aword3213]

We have similar feature in Delubrum Reginae Savage (bozja) and The Baldesion Arsenal (Eureka)

it's no fun i tell you

[Themarvin]

No bonusses in hard content, you are supposed to do the mechanics not just suicide in one of them and get revived.

There is FC boosts that lower that timer though, but the run is already over when people start dying.

I think it would make it to easy if people is not restricted heavy in Savage/Ex/Ulti content.

Besides raid ways today is not like the old days.. and even before wow where you had to encounter trashmobs and more and no skips between bosses like eg. it is in FFXIV Savage... they made Raids Ulimate Trials long story told short.