S-Rank mobs needs a invulnerability buff on S-RANKs

[KageTokage]

I was never fond of those overly possessive mindsets/rules being laid out in the discord and more then anything else just appreciate if people wait at least like a minute or two after something spawns so at bare minimum the ones who spawned it can get there.

Faloop's bot relays rely on someone to actually report it first. It explicitly does not use any in-game bots or addons for its functionality, to my knowledge at least. So 'banning' it is as good as 'banning' any form of the out-of-game coordination for the hunts.

When I say "bot relays" I'm referring to other sources like the Centurio Hunts discord that are being fed relays directly from third party apps that are detecting the S rank locations with no actual player input.

When it comes to older zones, it's almost always as a result of a shard/crystal farming bot being present when something spawns as they have a hunt detector built into their toolkit.

[Midareyukki]

Yes, basic courtesy and consideration for those who have put in the work goes far yet it is not Faloop's place to decide what constitutes hunt disruption or to "take actions towards eliminating such behaviour". That is up to SE and its GM team, and they've given us just two situations: resetting a mark that's already been engaged by players and using the mark for MPK.

Yeah, but the problem there is Square being vague with its terms again :x Because if they themselves don't define it well, then people will interpret them however they feel. Thus starting these arguments.

Faloop, as a tool, strictly speaking, is just that. It's a place for people to tick whether or not it's killed or spawned, or spawnable or whatever. Even if we had third party tools allowing to know that, you still are going to need people to keep the website up to date, as well as spawn and kill said Hunt.

When I say "bot relays" I'm referring to other sources like the Centurio Hunts discord that are being fed relays directly from third party apps that are detecting the S rank locations with no actual player input.

When it comes to older zones, it's almost always as a result of a shard/crystal farming bot being present when something spawns as they have a hunt detector built into their toolkit.

Wait, do you mean Discord bots? : o Because those retrieve the information from Faloop that others put out, and relay it over to discords. It's not an in-game third party tool. It is an automated part that Faloop can acquiesce to, but it's an intermediary thing. You can also do that with Angler or FF14 Alarms.

idk if there's an actual plug-in to do that directly into the game :I but if there is, first of all, yikes. Secondly? It's not a flaw with Faloop itself. The bot is getting info that other people record and relay it to others. The real danger there is the bot's existence to begin with.

As for the older zones... yeah, I agree. I don't think that's a problem with Faloop at all there though, that's just people botting the game to force it. That's a third-party tool use, so it's a violation, regardless of whether Faloop is tied to it or not.

[KageTokage]

idk if there's an actual plug-in to do that directly into the game :I but if there is, first of all, yikes. Secondly? It's not a flaw with Faloop itself. The bot is getting info that other people record and relay it to others. The real danger there is the bot's existence to begin with.

There have been plug-ins like that around since the dawn of the hunt system, but they've become increasingly more advanced as time has gone on and arguably hit a peak in terms of how disruptive they are when they started being built into all of the gathering bots.

If you spawn something, chances are the entire DC will be aware of it instantly, which led to dozens/hundreds of players immediately trying to swarm into a single server/zone for a S rank back in early EW which was completely hellish for obvious reasons. The population has thankfully tapered off enough that you're unlikely to get locked out of the zone entirely at this point.

And yes, I'm aware Faloop has nothing to do with that problem since it's only getting second-hand manual relays from those plug-ins/discords at most.