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    Thursdays's Avatar
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    Mako Nayhael
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    It's been half a year.

    Trick is fucked. Kaiten is still gone. Burst meta is dog. Ranged tax is wack. Machinist is _still_ falling behind. BLM still struggling to keep up with any of the melees.

    Not a single message about their plans moving forward.

    Where are the Comms?

    Please. Fucking. Talk. To. Us.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    You gotta wait till 2024-2025 for 7.0 before anything meaningful happens. All they know how to do is flip switchs on potency numbers.
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    We hear you loud and clear.

    10 potency buff on Shoha II. Please look forward to it.
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    Range tax has been wack since 2019

    It never justified itself, even before melee uptime changes.

    I'm not sure why Shadowbringers gets a free pass here when it is the origin of a lot of the design issues in the game currently.

    I think it was just easier to ignore because the range tax wasn't touching casters and DPS checks weren't as high
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora428 View Post
    Range tax has been wack since 2019

    It never justified itself, even before melee uptime changes.

    I'm not sure why Shadowbringers gets a free pass here when it is the origin of a lot of the design issues in the game currently.

    I think it was just easier to ignore because the range tax wasn't touching casters and DPS checks weren't as high
    I called Shadowbringers on a lot of its crap at the time but people were so wrapped up in the hype that no one wanted to listen. Its the same thing with Endwalker which, in my opinion, was an even bigger step down in terms of both gameplay AND storytelling. The games on a gradual decline at this point but since its the current golden child no one wants to talk about it. Well that and you have a rabid fanbase that tends to react very harshly to anyone with a negative opinion on it.
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    Ren Thras
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    Quote Originally Posted by Palladiamors View Post
    I called Shadowbringers on a lot of its crap at the time but people were so wrapped up in the hype that no one wanted to listen. Its the same thing with Endwalker which, in my opinion, was an even bigger step down in terms of both gameplay AND storytelling. The games on a gradual decline at this point but since its the current golden child no one wants to talk about it. Well that and you have a rabid fanbase that tends to react very harshly to anyone with a negative opinion on it.
    Are you suggesting Stormblood was the height of the game in terms of gameplay and storytelling? o.O

    That's...an uncommon take, to be sure.
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Are you suggesting Stormblood was the height of the game in terms of gameplay and storytelling? o.O

    That's...an uncommon take, to be sure.
    Perhaps not storytelling, but gameplay? Definitely not an uncommon take. Hell, if you even slightly suggest that Stormblood wasn't the best expansion gameplay wise on any of the XIV related reddits you'd be ripped to shreds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    Perhaps not storytelling, but gameplay? Definitely not an uncommon take. Hell, if you even slightly suggest that Stormblood wasn't the best expansion gameplay wise on any of the XIV related reddits you'd be ripped to shreds.
    That's because people are silly. SB wasn't bad, but it wasn't perfect. SB was, for example, the abject worst expansion for WHM out of the game's entire history. INCLUDING 1.0 WHM, btw. SB WHM was that bad. SB was also when Cleric was removed as a stance, so all the old school (HW) Healer lovers would tell you HW was better and all the anti-Cleric people (who hated it) would tell you ShB/EW was better, or that SB was "acceptable", but probably not great.

    It's pretty uncommon on storytelling, but as far as gameplay goes, a mixed bag of "alright, but not fantastic, either". And I say this as a person who has long said SB gets a worse rap than it should have.
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    Ataren Delaeris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    Are you suggesting Stormblood was the height of the game in terms of gameplay and storytelling? o.O

    That's...an uncommon take, to be sure.
    Storytelling definitely not. But I do remember the gameplay in Stormblood feeling more unique and (semi)-balanced. None of this awful two minute meta where I hold onto so many resources. I remember Stormblood having more of a 30 second "mini" burst. If you died not a huge deal because the mini bursts would make up for it (eventually).
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    Chadhadai Oronir
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    Unless something's changed super recently, a dev hasn't come to the English role/general forums in years. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong though.
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