Physick - Summoner problem

[wereotter]

While that's certainly "the fix"; It's really bad game design to have a useless skill on a job.

Maybe so... but it's not as though this is a problem unique to summoner. Monk, as an example, has been carrying some of its useless skills for multiple expansions.

Though I wouldn't be upset if they just deleted Physick. Scholar doesn't use the version of the skill from Arcanist, so deleting it from the class makes no difference other than to address discussions such as this one. Summoner doesn't need a heal beyond what it already gets with Enkindle and Everlasting Flight.

[Rithy255]

Would like them to change it to scale with Summoners, Obviously it's not the most important thing in the world but theirs situations where physick could be nice for solo content or if you wanna do a run without a healer and have a small safety net.

Overall it doesn't really matter if it gets changed or not, but I rather they A: Remove it or B: Make it scale better like vercure.

[Aikaal]

Would like them to change it to scale with Summoners, Obviously it's not the most important thing in the world but theirs situations where physick could be nice for solo content or if you wanna do a run without a healer and have a small safety net.

Overall it doesn't really matter if it gets changed or not, but I rather they A: Remove it or B: Make it scale better like vercure.

Sir or Lady I believe Summoners do not want people to stack an extra reason why they should do no damage. I believe this would be a terrible mistake.

[Rithy255]

Sir or Lady I believe Summoners do not want people to stack an extra reason why they should do no damage. I believe this would be a terrible mistake.

Well if people want to argue that summoner should do less damage because of physick that's just a bad argument, but I don't think because people will have "bad arguments" that it's a mistake to change something... Nothing would be added utility wise if that was the case.

Theirs already plenty of reasons why smn shouldn't do BLM damage a buffed physick wouldn't be one of them, SMN got plenty going for it already over the other casters, Not saying it couldn't be buffed some more.

I just disagree with the whole idea that people are going to really look towards physick being the reason why SMN damage shouldn't be high... Even if its a "extra reason" that's used against summoner's again it's a bad reasoning, we shouldn't advocate for changes to any jobs at all if you're worried that someone is going to have a bad take because of the change.

It doesn't feel like you personally have anything against SMN physick being actually decent for solo instances and stuff. (or like I said just remove it)

[LifeupOmega]

Everytime I look at Physick I do wonder if they're seperate spells too:

SUM: 400 MP, 400 Potency, under Class
SCH: 400 MP, 450 Potency, under Job

Regardless, that it doesn't scale with Int, or have an upgraded Phoenix-type variant, means it can be safely taken off your bars and forgotten about. Just put Carb's shield there instead.

[Ggwppino]

Welcome if it is fixed for the content to be done in single, but currently the smn has other much more serious problems.

[LeonKeyh]

Welcome if it is fixed for the content to be done in single, but currently the smn has other much more serious problems.

With which button? The Single target one, or the AE one?

[Ggwppino]

With which button? The Single target one, or the AE one?

Not with a single precise button, but I'm talking about the whole. The smn from 0 to 90 has no real sense of upgrade, the smn both at 50 and at 60 and at 70 that at 90 does the same things, pressing the same things. The smn from 0 to 90 instead of making the gameplay more complicated, is actually simplified by creating an involution of the gameplay: from having 15 seconds of only ruin with cast, to having 15 seconds of pure instant spell spam. While with the other classes as you advance you add more stuff to think about, with smn it's just the opposite. The smn during the leveling changes the names of the abilities but does not gain one. Obviously the smn had to be born with 8 summons and have them distributed during the leveling, instead they stopped at 5 for who knows what strange reason, perhaps to add (shiva, ramuh and leviathan) with future expansions. Returning, in the specific of the skills, the smn has 2 hot during the 15 seconds of phoenix forced to use it in those 15 seconds. So yeah, physick is the least of the problems for smn, in my opinion. Clearly if they fix it, I'm happy when I need it during a msq or some content to do on my own, but frankly I hope they invest their time to fix and complete the smn more deeply.

EDIT: I only realized now that it was a sarcastic comment. I am an idiot lol

[LeonKeyh]

EDIT: I only realized now that it was a sarcastic comment. I am an idiot lol

I should have tagged it, but I enjoy dry deliveries.