Physick - Summoner problem

[Rongway]

(even though red mage "vercure" is a thing on double cast)

Vercure is not worth casting as a heal in a party setting. It's there to make RDM look like a RDM and to give us something to proc Dualcast with when there is no target for a real spell.

I'm not sure what you mean by it "is a thing on double cast" but just to in case you have any wrong ideas about it, Dualcasting Vercure-Vercure still takes 5.0s / 2 GCDs, healing 700p over those two GCDs. In a single GCD a real healer can use one of the following heals:

• WHM: Cure II / Solace - 800p
• WHM: Regen - 1,500p
• AST: Benefic II - 800p
• AST: Aspected Benefic: 1,500p
• SCH: Adloquium - 840p normal / 1,380p crit
• SGE: Eukrasian Diagnosis: 840p normal / 1380p crit

What's more, a real healer can handle the healing without casting any of those spells at all in 99% of content. A RDM isn't ever going to Dualcast Vercure-Vercure unless soloing an obsolete Extreme/Savage fight or unless a party fight has gone so bad that those heals won't make a difference anyway. Similarly, if SMN's Physick healed for a real 400p instead of an off-stat 400p, it would still not be worth casting in a party setting.

[Mithron]

A RDM isn't ever going to Dualcast Vercure-Vercure unless soloing an obsolete Extreme/Savage fight

Vercure is amazing in Ultimates ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[LeonKeyh]

Just don't put it on your bar and forget you even have it. That's what I do... doesn't bother me

While that's certainly "the fix"; It's really bad game design to have a useless skill on a job.

Vercure is amazing in Ultimates ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll admit that I've never done any Ultimates. But...amazing? I really don't think that's the case. I can't see any instance where Vercure would be "amazing." It might be nice to keep the fight moving a bit to see the next mechanic(s), but can't see an instance where it would be a game changer.

[Aikaal]

While that's certainly "the fix"; It's really bad game design to have a useless skill on a job.



I'll admit that I've never done any Ultimates. But...amazing? I really don't think that's the case. I can't see any instance where Vercure would be "amazing." It might be nice to keep the fight moving a bit to see the next mechanic(s), but can't see an instance where it would be a game changer.

Vercure is pretty useful in downtimes and to get Dualcast procs when you can't hit the enemy. It can somehow save a wipe if something really cursed and wrong happened but it should never be considered reliable healing.

[wereotter]

While that's certainly "the fix"; It's really bad game design to have a useless skill on a job.

Maybe so... but it's not as though this is a problem unique to summoner. Monk, as an example, has been carrying some of its useless skills for multiple expansions.

Though I wouldn't be upset if they just deleted Physick. Scholar doesn't use the version of the skill from Arcanist, so deleting it from the class makes no difference other than to address discussions such as this one. Summoner doesn't need a heal beyond what it already gets with Enkindle and Everlasting Flight.