Physick - Summoner problem

[Zerrachiel]

Why is this spell so useless at higher levels for summoner? it needs to be reworked or changed somehow, it is just sitting there useless feels like lazy/bad game design to leave it the way it is now. Maybe give it a 30 second cd and heal more if they don't want dps classes to heal (even though red mage "vercure" is a thing on double cast) or just let it scale of INT already it just feels like a remnant of the past and they don't want to fix it

[Sparkthor]

The only purpose of physicks is to be used as Scholar. It's a remainder of ARR when Scholar and sumoner were heavily tied together. Otherwise it's a spell which could have been deleted, but still here probably because arcanist need at least one heal for low lvl as it's the base class of Scholar.

[Flana]

The only purpose of physicks is to be used as Scholar. It's a remainder of ARR when Scholar and sumoner were heavily tied together. Otherwise it's a spell which could have been deleted, but still here probably because arcanist need at least one heal for low lvl as it's the base class of Scholar.

Scholar has their own, unique version of Physick they get when you put on the job stone. The Arcanist version is literally useless, it does nothing.

[Aikaal]

Physick should upgraded to Rekindle or something like that. It's a wasted button on Summoner.

[Kansene]

Tbh it's also a wasted button on sch when we get real healing spells.

[wereotter]

Just don't put it on your bar and forget you even have it. That's what I do... doesn't bother me

[Rongway]

(even though red mage "vercure" is a thing on double cast)

Vercure is not worth casting as a heal in a party setting. It's there to make RDM look like a RDM and to give us something to proc Dualcast with when there is no target for a real spell.

I'm not sure what you mean by it "is a thing on double cast" but just to in case you have any wrong ideas about it, Dualcasting Vercure-Vercure still takes 5.0s / 2 GCDs, healing 700p over those two GCDs. In a single GCD a real healer can use one of the following heals:

• WHM: Cure II / Solace - 800p
• WHM: Regen - 1,500p
• AST: Benefic II - 800p
• AST: Aspected Benefic: 1,500p
• SCH: Adloquium - 840p normal / 1,380p crit
• SGE: Eukrasian Diagnosis: 840p normal / 1380p crit

What's more, a real healer can handle the healing without casting any of those spells at all in 99% of content. A RDM isn't ever going to Dualcast Vercure-Vercure unless soloing an obsolete Extreme/Savage fight or unless a party fight has gone so bad that those heals won't make a difference anyway. Similarly, if SMN's Physick healed for a real 400p instead of an off-stat 400p, it would still not be worth casting in a party setting.

[Mithron]

A RDM isn't ever going to Dualcast Vercure-Vercure unless soloing an obsolete Extreme/Savage fight

Vercure is amazing in Ultimates ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[LeonKeyh]

Just don't put it on your bar and forget you even have it. That's what I do... doesn't bother me

While that's certainly "the fix"; It's really bad game design to have a useless skill on a job.

Vercure is amazing in Ultimates ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll admit that I've never done any Ultimates. But...amazing? I really don't think that's the case. I can't see any instance where Vercure would be "amazing." It might be nice to keep the fight moving a bit to see the next mechanic(s), but can't see an instance where it would be a game changer.

[Aikaal]

While that's certainly "the fix"; It's really bad game design to have a useless skill on a job.



I'll admit that I've never done any Ultimates. But...amazing? I really don't think that's the case. I can't see any instance where Vercure would be "amazing." It might be nice to keep the fight moving a bit to see the next mechanic(s), but can't see an instance where it would be a game changer.

Vercure is pretty useful in downtimes and to get Dualcast procs when you can't hit the enemy. It can somehow save a wipe if something really cursed and wrong happened but it should never be considered reliable healing.