I'm bored when I heal because I need more complex DPS rotations

[AnotherPerson]

Then play a DPS.
If you do not like to heal. Play a DPS. Simple

.. Isn't this kind of out-of-touch response the main reason why a lot of healers abandoned the role / don't choose it as their priority role and people asked about the lack of healers in the interview?
And the same reason why Yoshi P. asked both tanks and DPS to please play healers?

[ty_taurus]

.. Isn't this kind of out-of-touch response the main reason why a lot of healers abandoned the role / don't choose it as their priority role and people asked about the lack of healers in the interview?
And the same reason why Yoshi P. asked both tanks and DPS to please play healers?

“Excuse me, waiter? The lasagna I ordered is terribly undercooked, extremely salty, and I think I taste chocolate in here? It’s completely inedible.”

The patron next to me: “Go EaT aT aNoTheR rEstAuRAnt iF yoU DoNt lIkE It!” *shovels undercooked, salty chocolate lasagna into their mouth while making eldritch monstrosity noises*

[flowerfairy]

Then play a DPS.
If you do not like to heal. Play a DPS. Simple

Again someone makes a broad statement without addressing any of the real arguments in the thread… I know it’s a lot of posts but please at least check out the 2nd page, there’s a comment like that already. It feels like we’re in an endless loop of people jumping in to say “well healers only heal so no” without actually seeing what some are asking for. I can understand since the title of the thread itself can be taken the wrong way but just read a little more please.

[EpicOverlord85]

I just want Stormblood SCH back.

What I wouldn’t do to get that tool kit back for SCH :\

[Nizzi]

Then play a DPS.
If you do not like to heal. Play a DPS. Simple

Long time healer mains OWNED with FACTS and LOGIC Ben Shapiro style!!

[Llynethil]

He ain't wrong though, you want more complex dps rotaion, play a dps then.

Thing they should do instead is remove all tank self healing, which is never gonna happen because tanks will all throw a hissyfit over this, but they made a huge mistake giving them way to much self healing, so that the player that actually has to heal .... only has to do so when there's raidwide aoe's, when the one person who is taking the most damage and should be healed by you never needs it, never understood that design logic honestly.
Or make it so that their self healing is reduced by 90% when inside a dungeon/raid zone, so they can still have it everywhere else; I dunno, but it needs to go if you want healers to be mor engaging to play.

More dps is the wrong solution because that's not the point of rolling healer, those buttons should just be there to have something to do while no healing is needed to throw in once and a while, so in order to fix it is for there to require more healing done, which is never gonna happen this expansion anyway because the devs are to afraid to do anything like that mid expansion.

[Nizzi]

He ain't wrong though, you want more complex dps rotaion, play a dps then.

Thing they should do instead is remove all tank self healing, which is never gonna happen because tanks will all throw a hissyfit over this, but they made a huge mistake giving them way to much self healing, so that the player that actually has to heal .... only has to do so when there's raidwide aoe's, when the one person who is taking the most damage and should be healed by you never needs it, never understood that design logic honestly.
Or make it so that their self healing is reduced by 90% when inside a dungeon/raid zone, so they can still have it everywhere else; I dunno, but it needs to go if you want healers to be mor engaging to play.

More dps is the wrong solution because that's not the point of rolling healer, those buttons should just be there to have something to do while no healing is needed to throw in once and a while, so in order to fix it is for there to require more healing done, which is never gonna happen this expansion anyway because the devs are to afraid to do anything like that mid expansion.

He is wrong. An AST player solo-healed DSR. Their most used button? Fall Malefic. "just give us more to heal!" is not the solution for 1 button spam at all. Tank self healing also is only an issue in casual content, not savage or above.

[FireMage]

He is wrong. An AST player solo-healed DSR. Their most used button? Fall Malefic. "just give us more to heal!" is not the solution for 1 button spam at all. Tank self healing also is only an issue in casual content, not savage or above.

They aren't. If you want a play something with complexity maybe don't play the easiest role in the game?

[ASkellington]

He ain't wrong though, you want more complex dps rotaion, play a dps then.

Thing they should do instead is remove all tank self healing, which is never gonna happen because tanks will all throw a hissyfit over this, but they made a huge mistake giving them way to much self healing, so that the player that actually has to heal .... only has to do so when there's raidwide aoe's, when the one person who is taking the most damage and should be healed by you never needs it, never understood that design logic honestly.
Or make it so that their self healing is reduced by 90% when inside a dungeon/raid zone, so they can still have it everywhere else; I dunno, but it needs to go if you want healers to be mor engaging to play.

More dps is the wrong solution because that's not the point of rolling healer, those buttons should just be there to have something to do while no healing is needed to throw in once and a while, so in order to fix it is for there to require more healing done, which is never gonna happen this expansion anyway because the devs are to afraid to do anything like that mid expansion.

We've gone over this already.

They are not going to increase the healing requirements to make all of the healing tools we have USEFUL. See going from Shb to EW. I still don't use have my kit in most content.

Second, healers should get more dps because see my quote below and the devs themselves want this game to be LESS MMO and more SINGLE PLAYER and healers have two (2) primary DPS buttons for 86 levels in content that once again, does not push them to use all of their healing tools outside of the 1%. (ultimate)

They need more dps buttons. Period. SE needs to suck it up and remove some healing and give it.

[flowerfairy]

More dps is the wrong solution because that's not the point of rolling healer, those buttons should just be there to have something to do while no healing is needed to throw in once and a while, so in order to fix it is for there to require more healing done, which is never gonna happen this expansion anyway because the devs are to afraid to do anything like that mid expansion.

Quality over quantity. I want healer kits to have meaningful unique tools that can interact with each other. What is the difference between Indom and Fey Blessing, or Tetra and Afflatus Solace and Cure II? It's all just copy pasted crap and the only thing your braincell has to think about is "use the one that costs less DPS first". We don't need an abnormal amount of healing tools, we already have the ones that work. I want the powerful oGCD heals to be cutdown and limited in cooldowns so we have to rely more on our GCD heals. And what do you replace the cut out oGCD heals with? A proper downtime rotation. (Of course, for some jobs, it isn't as simple and just taking out heals, and they would need a real rework.)

I also don't want "more to heal". A fight requiring me to spam GCD heals and use oGCD heals on cooldown is no more interesting than Glarespam. But what I do want is more interesting situations to heal in. Unpredictable attacks, random groups of party members taking damage, boss autoattacks that can crit and go through casting, etc. However, this stuff goes against Squeenix's current raid design philosophy and I think has a lower chance of being considered than just changing the 4 healer jobs. I'd love to have both, but I want the healer jobs to be fixed first.