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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Those were all statements of fact. If you're going to read with the comprehension of a grade schooler then you may leave
    If they were facts you would have arguments to prove them, still waiting for them
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    If they were facts you would have arguments to prove them, still waiting for them
    They've already been proven. You are dismissed
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    They've already been proven. You are dismissed
    At least in this thread they aren't, could you please show me where so we can actually discuss them?
    Since they are proven it should be easy
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
    At least in this thread they aren't, could you please show me where so we can actually discuss them?
    Since they are proven it should be easy
    There's no point in arguing with trolls, but I generally look at it this way. If a troll (someone who deliberately posts the opposite of common sense to trigger a reaction) is arguing against something, it really just signifies they think it's obviously true as well. That's why they pick it as a good topic to troll on.

    It's not like any dev is going to read his insults and "dismissed" nonsense and take it as serious feedback either. It's clear trolling. Ignore it and move on, if anything the fact trolls are jumping on the subject so much over the last few years just shows how ridiculous it is that it hasn't been addressed.
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    If only people with extensive experience are allowed to speak, then I will say that, in my 7 years of experience on every healer, the experience of the healer role has taken a sharp downturn since the beginning of Shadowbringer, I've fallen asleep during TEA prog and no one even died, that's how little healers have to pay attention to.

    A point that was brought up is that optimising healing tools to minimise healing is the complexity of the healing role, this is false, what happens after you've optimised all the healing out of the fight? You press your dot and filler while pressing your other dps key whenever up. Even someone new to healing can see that it's indefensible, unengaging garbage, and many have, that's why the healer role is consistently bleeding players.
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    I leave for a day and find 2 pages of people arguing with Gaston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I leave for a day and find 2 pages of people arguing with Gaston.
    Yeh it's kinda funny he says I had no reading comprehension when I brought up his healing logs, when it's pretty clear to anyone with reading comprehension (so, not him I guess) that I brought up the healing logs in direct reference to his claim at being 'very good at all roles'. 'Yeh he's good at RDM, but I wouldn't say 'very good at all roles' is necessarily accurate' is my point, and if his RDM logs somehow grant him 'more authority' to speak on what is good for the game, surely my logs as healer give me more authority to speak for healer specific changes? Of course, he'll come back and disagree and call me idiot or whatever

    And don't compare him to Gaston, at least Gaston came with a catchy musical number
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    Last edited by ForsakenRoe; 11-27-2022 at 06:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    I don't understand why people continue to entertain desperate for attention, delusional posters who have never posted anything worth replying to, especially when talking about roles they do not play and are not proficient in. I know healing is boring but surely it's not this boring?
    It's something to do at least. We've been exhausting the reasons why healer design is crap for six years now. If it weren't for annoying narcissistic Sylphie trolls we'd be here, sitting in a circle, going "still sucks for the same reason right?" "Yup." "Anyone got a question for the next live letter?" "Don't worry, I already know Yoshi-P's answer to whatever question you're going to formulate."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    It's something to do at least. We've been exhausting the reasons why healer design is crap for six years now. If it weren't for annoying narcissistic Sylphie trolls we'd be here, sitting in a circle, going "still sucks for the same reason right?" "Yup." "Anyone got a question for the next live letter?" "Don't worry, I already know Yoshi-P's answer to whatever question you're going to formulate."
    Certainly is more fun than playing as a healer in FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    It's something to do at least. We've been exhausting the reasons why healer design is crap for six years now. If it weren't for annoying narcissistic Sylphie trolls we'd be here, sitting in a circle, going "still sucks for the same reason right?" "Yup." "Anyone got a question for the next live letter?" "Don't worry, I already know Yoshi-P's answer to whatever question you're going to formulate."
    You make it sound like we're the Ea, just accepting the futility of even bothering to try and rebel against the fate of the role. Nothing to do except embrace the nihility of it all, and watch as the hotbars become more and more barren of damage skills, and more and more bloated with excessive healing we don't need. We're not waiting for heat-death, we're waiting for heal-death
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