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  1. #1
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    Zacheris's Avatar
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    Kemono Friends
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    Adamantoise
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    Sage Lv 90

    Ranked Crystalline Conflict needs old Feast rewards to keep it alive

    This will undoubtedly get hate from the old Feast crowd but it's true. I've spent the entire day today, 10 hours, in queue for ranked and no matches have been made. Everybody has already gotten their Crystal portraits and title, with the top 100 titles becoming more and more common. For most players who've done ranked there simply isn't any juice left to squeeze from the game mode, with those wanting the Alpha Wolf title playing casual for the much faster queues all day long. Ranked needs rewards that aren't static otherwise players will receive them once and never have a reason to touch it again. The old Feast rewards fit this niche and overall PvP theme perfectly.

    Every season should have a corresponding Feast seasonal reward for all top 100 players on a rotating schedule. This helps prevent people simply hitting Crystal rank and leaving the ranked mode dead for the rest of the season. Over time new players and those who didn't place the first time will build up and want their own chance at earning them, keeping the ranked mode active over time with minimal investment from the development team. Thankfully they've seen the overall positive feedback regarding the gameplay, now it's just a simple matter of fixing the reward structure. Please take what I've typed in this post in consideration. I really like the competitive nature and don't want to see it die off when others are willing to play it as well if the proper incentive over casual mode is there.
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    Gordon Geeko
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    Dancer Lv 90
    4:30 pm PST and not a single game on Aether. This is not looking good for this season.

    Hopefully, this will make SE realize that they need to do something, but who are we kidding. As long as the JP data centers have games, they couldn't care less that other data centers don't.
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  3. #3
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    Reinhardt Azureheim
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Don't get me wrong, you have the heart in the right place - Ranked needs an equivalent to the Top 100 Feast rewards to incentivise play. In fact, Tier rewards also need something unique to them that you cannot farm in Casual, incentivising to play even outside of Top 100.

    But as you already guessed yourself, you are going to get a lot of flak for saying that the rewards in question should be the previous Feast rewards. Unique Ranking rewards are essentially "Trophies" and if you re-introduce them, you kill off what makes these Trophies so sought after, you kill the "unique" of it.

    I'm against FOMO as much as the next guy, but for the purpose of a Competition, you need to keep things unique, else you will have various players just return to the same question:

    "Why should I play now if there is a good chance they will just reintroduce it later again for probably less effort?"
    Alternatively for those who have them: "Why should I play now, I already have this?"

    In short:
    • Yes, there needs to be actual rewards at the level of what The Feast offered
    • No, the rewards should be unique and not what The Feast already had
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  4. #4
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    Towa Musa
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Zacheris View Post
    This will undoubtedly get hate from the old Feast crowd but it's true. I've spent the entire day today, 10 hours, in queue for ranked and no matches have been made. Everybody has already gotten their Crystal portraits and title, with the top 100 titles becoming more and more common. For most players who've done ranked there simply isn't any juice left to squeeze from the game mode, with those wanting the Alpha Wolf title playing casual for the much faster queues all day long. Ranked needs rewards that aren't static otherwise players will receive them once and never have a reason to touch it again. The old Feast rewards fit this niche and overall PvP theme perfectly.

    Every season should have a corresponding Feast seasonal reward for all top 100 players on a rotating schedule. This helps prevent people simply hitting Crystal rank and leaving the ranked mode dead for the rest of the season. Over time new players and those who didn't place the first time will build up and want their own chance at earning them, keeping the ranked mode active over time with minimal investment from the development team. Thankfully they've seen the overall positive feedback regarding the gameplay, now it's just a simple matter of fixing the reward structure. Please take what I've typed in this post in consideration. I really like the competitive nature and don't want to see it die off when others are willing to play it as well if the proper incentive over casual mode is there.
    they wont make those ranked exclusives, glams mounts and minions will be on the series bp or crystal trphy shop
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    Pezai Vuzai
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    Scholar Lv 75
    I agree with this opinion. We need different color of Feast prize or new special prize to keep CC alive.
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    You think you do, but that is your personal desire for old rewards and not an actual desire to save PVP. CC is dying because the game mode is ten times less competitive than Feast was regardless of the rewards, every game feels like a mini Frontlines match where you spam and pray, and the reward structure is unappealing. Though when we had a competitive reward structure with cool, unique rewards, casuals complained about FOMO. So now the Casuals got exactly what they wanted, no cool FOMO rewards just bland titles and frames no one cares about, and a game mode so casual friendly you could probably get top100 blindfolded. The casual community got what they asked for, and pushed out the majority of hardcore PVP players who actually cared about a competitive, rewarding, game mode. So sure, add in the old rewards, but it will do nothing but satisfy the greed of the individuals dissatisfied they could not get everything they ever wanted, and will do nothing to fix the game mode the casual community asked for.
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    Sarah Montcroix
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ixon View Post
    You think you do, but that is your personal desire for old rewards and not an actual desire to save PVP. CC is dying because the game mode is ten times less competitive than Feast was regardless of the rewards, every game feels like a mini Frontlines match where you spam and pray, and the reward structure is unappealing. Though when we had a competitive reward structure with cool, unique rewards, casuals complained about FOMO. So now the Casuals got exactly what they wanted, no cool FOMO rewards just bland titles and frames no one cares about, and a game mode so casual friendly you could probably get top100 blindfolded. The casual community got what they asked for, and pushed out the majority of hardcore PVP players who actually cared about a competitive, rewarding, game mode. So sure, add in the old rewards, but it will do nothing but satisfy the greed of the individuals dissatisfied they could not get everything they ever wanted, and will do nothing to fix the game mode the casual community asked for.
    Nola with the facts here. I'm not an old school Feaster by any means (only played Season 19/20), but it's sad to see that basically all of the top Feast players on Aether have given up on CC, even if they're still playing FFXIV. I actually enjoy CC more than The Feast, but it would be one last spit in the face to those who enjoyed and supported XIV PvP for so long when it was so much less popular if their ranking rewards were made available again.
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    Piush Stumbleine
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    Or make the mode fun and people will play it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Or make the mode fun and people will play it?
    Why not both? These are not mutually exclusive.
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  10. #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nanne View Post
    Or make the mode fun and people will play it?
    lmfao geez, imagine making something FUN now days
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