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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    How are they supposed to queue you to a place that doesn't exist yet?
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    Myrany Wilzuun
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Sorry to burst your bubble but I didn't assume anything about the level of character you were planning to move. I didn't even assume that you were moving.

    And you want to talk about entitlement, I think your idea of lack of priorities points more towards entitlement than my idea that different groups should have different priority.

    But I understand that you can't make a valid point without putting words in mouths of other people and acting like a child.
    Words in your mouth? Hardly. The only direct reference to you was that you had no idea what character I was moving. Everything else was general.

    Saying that everyone gets in line is exactly the OPPOSITE of entitlement. My priority is that everyone gets an equal and fair chance. That means a line where no one gets a special place. Everyone equal.

    You were the one that wants special cases.
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    it'd be nice if before hand people should queue up their characters for a transfer say a week early. What the queue would essentially do is start the transfer for those characters immediately after the servers go up. I feel as if this would alleviate a lot of frustration and it would give priority to the people that are going to matter the most on those servers which are the people that want to move there, rather than the visitors or the fresh accounts.

    I realize it'd probably be a minor improvement but if it could be done it'd be welcome. I'm not trying to point the finger at SE and blame them for everything, just trying to suggest something that seems like it could help.
    It's first come first serve. Wake up at 5 or 6 AM like some of us did if you want an easy time to transfer. Those of us who "actually want to be there" were awake and ready to go.

    Also, it's pretty laughable that only people trying to transfer their mains matter when playing on multiple servers is a thing & new players are needed to keep the game growing.
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    Vel Kallor
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    Saying that everyone gets in line is exactly the OPPOSITE of entitlement. My priority is that everyone gets an equal and fair chance. That means a line where no one gets a special place. Everyone equal.
    Forget entitlement, Myrany, what gets me is the lack of patience. A few hours or a day isnt a life changing issue by any means. The server will still be there tomorrow and the day after and the day after that so..I dont see the rush.

    Never have never will. When Materia opened I tried, didnt work, so went to bed and curled up with a good book. Xferred the following day and hey...Materia was still there.

    Matsu. A word to live by.

    it would give priority to the people that are going to matter the most
    Rightttt......
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 11-02-2022 at 01:16 PM.

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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    IIRC you can't set up a transfer to a world until you've opened the "choose/create character" screen for that world at least once, which seems an odd restriction to make arbitrarily so I assume it creates some kind of necessary connection in the backend of the system.

    If it's correct that you can't transfer without doing that first, then it's impossible to set up transfers to a world before that world exists.
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    Jahro Katika
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I think your idea of lack of priorities points more towards entitlement than my idea that different groups should have different priority.
    I am curious as to how you came to this conclusion.

    If anything, it looks to me to be the complete opposite.
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    I bet you get angry when you dont wake up early to get in lines for new products then cry when they are sold out when you go late evening. Probably also ask to speak to the manager when it happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRat View Post
    I am curious as to how you came to this conclusion.

    If anything, it looks to me to be the complete opposite.
    Because it makes sense to me. If you have people who know they're going to transfer then why wouldn't you set up a system to have them be able to pre-queue their accounts when the servers go live?

    It also makes sense to bar new characters from said servers for the first few hours. If any new player wanted to join those servers they likely would be turned off by the hassle of the wait or not want to deal with any other issues that come up anyways. New alt accounts aren't overwhelming important as most of those will likely be forgotten, so again, new characters would probably receive less priority altogether.

    And finally travelers would receive the least priority in all of this until the dust settles. New characters and transfers alike should be settled first before the doors to travelers open. People shouldn't be hopping onto a new DC right away and adding to the congestion.

    This just makes the most sense to me. This isn't about anyone else being better or targeting anyone specifically. It just makes logical sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    I bet you get angry when you dont wake up early to get in lines for new products then cry when they are sold out when you go late evening. Probably also ask to speak to the manager when it happens.
    Sure, go ahead and make all the assumptions you want. I shouldn't really be surprised that you're throwing out insults considering you've never had enough intelligence to actually add anything constructive or thoughtful anywhere else.
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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Because it makes sense to me. If you have people who know they're going to transfer then why wouldn't you set up a system to have them be able to pre-queue their accounts when the servers go live?

    It also makes sense to bar new characters from said servers for the first few hours. If any new player wanted to join those servers they likely would be turned off by the hassle of the wait or not want to deal with any other issues that come up anyways. New alt accounts aren't overwhelming important as most of those will likely be forgotten, so again, new characters would probably receive less priority altogether.

    And finally travelers would receive the least priority in all of this until the dust settles. New characters and transfers alike should be settled first before the doors to travelers open. People shouldn't be hopping onto a new DC right away and adding to the congestion.

    This just makes the most sense to me. This isn't about anyone else being better or targeting anyone specifically. It just makes logical sense.



    Sure, go ahead and make all the assumptions you want. I shouldn't really be surprised that you're throwing out insults considering you've never had enough intelligence to actually add anything constructive or thoughtful anywhere else.
    This is what entitlement looks like. Again, I ask how are they supposed to set you up to move somewhere that's not online yet? You talk of sense, but this idea of yours is lacking. That aside, all this just over-complicates a simple matter.
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    Vel Kallor
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    This just makes the most sense to me. This isn't about anyone else being better or targeting anyone specifically. It just makes logical sense.
    ...yet you havent told us how the system knows who is a visitor and who "matters the most"......,

    It also makes sense to bar new characters from said servers for the first few hours.
    ..no it doesnt....it makes no sense at all. But then again, this entire thread makes no sense so at least you are consistent. Theres that.
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