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  1. 11-02-2022 05:56 AM #1
    Meowdyj
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Reaper being the sole exception. It's buffs are actually fairly substantial, and may allow it to crack into the Melee meta again.
    What does this even mean. Reaper is one of the most popular if not the most popular melee job, how is it not already "Meta" ?
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  2. 11-02-2022 06:20 AM #2
    Tint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meowdyj View Post
    What does this even mean. Reaper is one of the most popular if not the most popular melee job, how is it not already "Meta" ?
    Popularity has nothing to do with meta. Meta is the quality, popularity is quantity.

    Of course often the meta is popular as well, but not always.
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  3. 11-02-2022 06:42 AM #3
    Cheremia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Popularity has nothing to do with meta. Meta is the quality, popularity is quantity.

    Of course often the meta is popular as well, but not always.
    Yep and the pvp issue of buffing whm because its extremely popular, hence it muddies the waters with lower people using it and making it lose more.

    More people playing means more losses means lower winrate.
    And they buffed because of winrate at first, without showing how many people play whm.

    They definitely use the wrong reasons to buff classes, ESPECIALLY in pvp
    The people that play reaper being better than some other people, hence it not having the worst winrate.... doesn't mean reaper is op or anything
    People just like how it plays i guess
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  4. 11-02-2022 07:24 AM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meowdyj View Post
    What does this even mean. Reaper is one of the most popular if not the most popular melee job, how is it not already "Meta" ?
    It's too weak in comparison to SAM/MNK. It's more a middle of the pack with the Melee.

    Honestly the buffs can seem good but you still have the drifting burst window that screws it over and it's even more susceptible to rng crit where now you want both PH and Communio to crit for max damage.

    So they are pushing up the numbers without addressing any of it's actual problems.

    They nerfed it's utility, then slight buffs to the filler combo you only use 20% of the time and they buffed your 2 minute big GCDs. PH is a sizable increase but Communio potency increase is underwhelming.

    I don't know what the hell the buff on Lemure Slice is even for. It's still only worth half a Bloodstalk. 200/220 potency vs. 340/400 potency? Give me a break.

    They hope to strike a balance between burst and nonburst damage but I have a feeling they just made it worse.
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  5. 11-02-2022 11:54 AM #5
    Kazhar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meowdyj View Post
    What does this even mean. Reaper is one of the most popular if not the most popular melee job, how is it not already "Meta" ?
    If we're talking P8S logged clears, RPR was the 4th most unpopular DPS, only beaten out by MCH, BRD and BLM.
    Sure RPR is popular in casual content, but it's not meta. As soon as good damage is actually required, it disappears from stats.
    Same happened with DSR and it will probably be an unpopular pick in the next Ultimate too unless they fix its massive issues with downtime mechanics.
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