Differentiating healer identities

[ForsakenRoe]

We've never had both the damage and healing aspects of Assize work together. It's always been used for damage first, and if it lined up so that the healing comes in useful, happy coincidence, in HW Cleric Stance forced the choice between damage or healing, you only got one of the two. We also use Earthly Star in the same way, on CD for the damage, and if it lines up to heal, that's just a bonus. Having a second charge is the absolute simplest solution to the problem. If you want/need to hold a charge for healing purposes (cough UCOB), you can hold a charge. If you know you won't need a charge for healing, either due to optimization or just knowing the way the fight plays out, you can dump one whenever you cap, and spend both in the 2min window for more damage, as we do now with Phlegma. In fact, adding this small thing is at least 'some' extra complexity the class still lacks, so it'd benefit from that too.

Also, having 2 charges would actually improve versatility of 'when to use it as a healing tool'. Say you're doing, idk, P8S. The damage of Fourfold Fires (the vent proximity aoes) hits during the raidbuff window. Let's imagine Assize is up at the first oGCD possible during the buff window, for the simplicity of the example. Holding Assize to heal that damage would take like 7 seconds, wouldn't drop out of raidbuffs but it'd potentially cost a use off the end of the fight. However, going into the same example with 2 charges (or one, with ~5sec left for the next to come back), you could throw one out to get the CD going again as you would in raidbuffs, and then hold the second charge towards the end of the buff window, to heal the Fourfold damage, without losing a use because the first charge's use set the CD ticking again.

You're right that there's multiple ways to fix this, but having the 'damage half' turn into 'the healing half' is a recipe for disaster I think. If it was such a horrible idea for DRGs and their High Jump/Mirage Dive losing an eye to the Thordan transition in DSR, that SE reverted the change in the very next patch, then 'oops sorry I thought I'd be able to get the healing half of Assize in time' would be the bane of PF circus-show runs and optimized logging runs alike.

[Naoki34]

Healer identity ?

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[Deceptus]

Healer identity ?

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[KarmaYraeon]

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[ForsakenRoe]

AST

[ASkellington]

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[Rithy255]

I'm not really big on healers as they're my least played jobs in general despite me generally liking the more "support" and utility based Jobs in games generally, when I do play Healer it's mainly Astro or Scholar, I generally think ff14 healing currently isn't for me, I just don't think it's what I'm looking for in job design I want something more involved, I do have every battle job at 90, so I do have some context and thoughts on what I'd like to see for healers, I know I'd play healer more if I felt more involved

Astrologian
Generally, most people will disagree with this take, but Astro is the most enjoyable healer for me, I like having RNG aspects a card system of buffs, I think one thing people miss is generally how astros buffs are now just flat damage increases which I can understand, I feel like actually Astro has a decent identity of being a buff job with other healers you feel more like just a healer who spams one damage button, when I hear they want to rework this job in 7.0 I do worry a bit, like I ALREADY got to worry about PLD here, The only thing I would want changed is more diverse buffs (likely will never happen) and barrier sect back.

White Mage
This healer is something? I don't really know... I can't say I've enjoyed playing white mage it just feels very static not a lot to do, no real weaving in ocgd's unlike other healers, I remember back in SHB I think white mage/scholar had longer cast times, I think it makes more sense why white mage had longer cast times it gave it a "semi-blm" feel where you're going to find it harder to move, I think that and a couple of procs or just some extra dps buttons on white mage might help a bit, I'd also like White mage to go back to a elemental Job not "glare sparkles" I don't know I feel like this Job just needs some changes to be more enjoyable.

Scholar & Sage
My problems with both are generally the same, as I feel like Sage copies scholar in a lot of ways and doesn't really offer anything new? if anything at least scholar can bring a speed boost to raids... I don't know I thought sage was going to be a "battle" healer when I first saw it (oh boy I was wrong who would have guessed) but I just don't know, it feels like it takes a lot from scholar and doesn't do a lot new with it, just like I said with white mage a few more Dps spells would be nice (I'm not too fussed about DPS on healers but having a bit more to do would be nice), my main issue is how similar these two jobs are, Sage also basically replaces "barrier astro" which felt generally more unique then sage... Don't get me wrong both are fine and fun but I want sage to be reworked, give sch a lil more but in general I like scholar quite a bit.

[MedievalMarty]

Not sure if this helps, but is looking for a summary of all the healers with some tips for beginners healers. This might help:
https://lootandlevel.com/ffxiv-healing-guide/

[IDontPetLalas]

Not sure if this helps, but is looking for a summary of all the healers with some tips for beginners healers. This might help:
https://lootandlevel.com/ffxiv-healing-guide/

It was pretty good until I hit this line "Healers have some of the most confusing and complex combinations and rotations" smh

[glamazon]

It was pretty good until I hit this line "Healers have some of the most confusing and complex combinations and rotations" smh

that's a blatant lie sigh
there are no combinations and nothing about any other healers is remotely complex