Is SE planning to deal with ilvl cheese people?

[Wolwosh]

I just leave when I get CT, saves me a lot of boredom. When I get them we wipe so much anyway that its not worth doing it for the tomes

[OskarXCI]

A quick and easy solution is for the game to ignore player item level when you queue through the roulette and determine raid eligibility by character level.

If your item level is below the minimum requirement, you will be scaled up to that.

[NekoMataMata]

Even if they fixed ilevel cheese, there's not much that can be done about people who don't unlock further raids. As other have suggested, spinning the optional alliance raids out into another roulette with its own separate rewards might help.

This. It's not just new players but people who make alt characters know full well that they have complete access to raid roulette without having to do further raids and having to run the risk of getting those raids.

This would probably be hated, but what if we extended the raid roulette requirements to require unlocking the HW raids too? Alliance Raid roulette gives really good experience and it's one of the main roulettes people do if they're not doing all of them. The reward is already there if you're leveling.

[Saraide]

This. It's not just new players but people who make alt characters know full well that they have complete access to raid roulette without having to do further raids and having to run the risk of getting those raids.

This would probably be hated, but what if we extended the raid roulette requirements to require unlocking the HW raids too? Alliance Raid roulette gives really good experience and it's one of the main roulettes people do if they're not doing all of them. The reward is already there if you're leveling.

I'm afraid this is the reality of the situation. If there were people queueing for other raids then the non-ilvl cheesing people would get them, because they are the only people elligble for it. The way the roulette is structured it favors CT raids above and beyond any others. It only needs a single person forcing CT to create a CT run but it would take the roulette an entire 24 group to not force CT to have a chance at another one.

[TheGrimace]

Then you'll have another 500 threads from the same 20 or so ppl pretending to be the majority crying that they're being "gated out of content" because they need to learn mechanics... just like with steps of faith when HW launched and shinryu normal with stormblood launched. They even did it to solo MSQs like the Lakshmi solo msq...

I would like to laugh at them. I will also take this moment to do so.

[Wolwosh]

A quick and easy solution is for the game to ignore player item level when you queue through the roulette and determine raid eligibility by character level.

If your item level is below the minimum requirement, you will be scaled up to that.

I think that way you'd still get the 50's mostnof the time because theres almost always someone that is new and needs to do them.

[UkcsAlias]

I think that way you'd still get the 50's mostnof the time because theres almost always someone that is new and needs to do them.

But it negates entering the roulette naked. You can be ilvl 130 at lvl 90. You get still synced to 590 upon entering.
At the same time, when someone lacks the gear for the 2nd one (but otherwise its unlocked), and starts the roulette. That player can now also get the raid while lacking the gear, and still be in sync (it does require luck then, but again, not an issue).

There is barely any gain for someone behind, but disrupts those that want to exploit the system.

It is a nice idea, but i think it can be improved: Upon starting the next expansion, the roulette now requires you to have all the raids of the previous expansion unlocked. Using the system of forced upsync based on lvl, it means all raids then will always be available, and when lazy you cannot do the roulette anymore. Since we look at the next expansion instead of 'current'. Its only the newest raids that arent forced upon the people. But as they are the newest, they are popular anyway and by that more likely to show.

[GTK0HLK]

But it negates entering the roulette naked. You can be ilvl 130 at lvl 90. You get still synced to 590 upon entering.
At the same time, when someone lacks the gear for the 2nd one (but otherwise its unlocked), and starts the roulette. That player can now also get the raid while lacking the gear, and still be in sync (it does require luck then, but again, not an issue).

There is barely any gain for someone behind, but disrupts those that want to exploit the system.

It is a nice idea, but i think it can be improved: Upon starting the next expansion, the roulette now requires you to have all the raids of the previous expansion unlocked. Using the system of forced upsync based on lvl, it means all raids then will always be available, and when lazy you cannot do the roulette anymore. Since we look at the next expansion instead of 'current'. Its only the newest raids that arent forced upon the people. But as they are the newest, they are popular anyway and by that more likely to show.

They did that for Bozja, it can be tinkered to work in Alliance raids, in how you get put to 80 with all your skills and a flat Ilvl.

Cause after you beat an expansion. there is no reason you can't gear up faster than you can reach the .2-.3 of the expansions content.
<current expac excluded cause of how long it takes to gear>
so it's reasonable to upsync players who have reached that point.
[I could suggest adjusting ARR ilvls, but that would throw out the ideas of gearing intentionally with low ilvl for stuff.<since min ilvl only does so much> but would help out remove the unnecessary extra AF gear. and direct people to tomes.]

all in all though. if we push for a solution one can be found.<doing nothing won't help anything>

[Imora]

I fail to see why you'd make then get all three coins.

After farming the glamour from aglaia I never want to step foot in there again.

[Derio]

CT raids need their own roulette or need to be trust enabled so they can be taken out of alliance raid roulette.