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    Fix Rapid Synthesis so it actually hits at 50%

    I used to play this game a lot. And I remember how Rapid Synthesis was labeled to hit 50% of the time, but that it always hit no more than 20-25% Tops.

    So I come back to the game a few days ago thinking that surely by now they either fixed the bugged or relabeled it to the ACTUAL success rate...


    NOPE.
    Still hits like 1 out of 5 on average.

    If you only want it to hit 20%, then fine. It's your game.
    But LABEL IT AS SUCH.
    OR FIX IT.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Welcome to RNG, over thousands of people.

    It averages to 50/50.

    Same as how a 7% meld can go on the first try, or 300 materia later.
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    Selene Halflight
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    <don't fully understand the situation since I only rapid synth stuff I out level or fan easily create with no issue..,>
    But I'd like to add if we are rapid synthing any item at max level.
    It should automatically be all HQ, since we have that skill that auto fills the Quality to max.

    Edit: Clarification, I mean Trained Eye if all the crafts are 10 levels or lower. This should count for all items crafted.

    I assume op means when Rapid Synth at, or near same craft level
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    Last edited by GTK0HLK; 10-31-2022 at 06:14 AM.

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    If the probability of an event is not 0 or 1, there are no guarantees. The pRNG isn't broken because you personally have not observed an event to occur as often as its probability says it should. For every thousand times you use the action, there are thousands of other players using the action millions of times more that you cannot observe. If you could, you would see that it works about as often as it's supposed to. This is still true even if you personally go ten or even a hundred failures in a row. While an improbable occurrence, it's not guaranteed not to happen, and it doesn't mean the game is broken when it does.
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    Literally just don't use rapid synth lmao. Much better options out there that don't have you crying on the forums my dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jalei View Post
    Literally just don't use rapid synth lmao. Much better options out there that don't have you crying on the forums my dude.
    I mean it's needed for expert craft like Water Otter fountain... What you gonna use if Rapid Synth is useless for you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    I mean it's needed for expert craft like Water Otter fountain... What you gonna use if Rapid Synth is useless for you?
    I never said its useless but if you're going to QQ and complain about it, find something else. That's the point I'm making.
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    We really don't need back in forths here, and in other topics.

    It has its uses.., does it need to be as the OP wants not exactly.., will it drain resources from other things.., not as much as many would exaggerate..,,
    Does it need some changes to take into account..,
    Yes..,
    Like taking into account "Trained Eye" if the level difference is there.

    It has uses, so it exists. Personal amount of uses aside. Does it merit OPs desired changes..,

    Simple Yes or no, with minor detail.<no back and forth about it>
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    RNG on Rapid Synth is streaky. Sometimes I'll get several failures in a row. Sometimes I'll get several successes. If you only use it infrequently, then it's going to seem like it always fails.

    Since it makes no sense to use Rapid Synthesis on anything except the Expert recipes, it's not going to be an issue for 95% of crafters.

    If you're tackling Expert, then you know how to reduce the RNG. If you don't know how to reduce the RNG, learn to understand your conditions better.

    Quote Originally Posted by GTK0HLK View Post
    We really don't need back in forths here, and in other topics.

    It has its uses.., does it need to be as the OP wants not exactly.., will it drain resources from other things.., not as much as many would exaggerate..,,
    Does it need some changes to take into account..,
    Yes..,
    Like taking into account "Trained Eye" if the level difference is there.

    It has uses, so it exists. Personal amount of uses aside. Does it merit OPs desired changes..,

    Simple Yes or no, with minor detail.<no back and forth about it>
    No, because the average failure rate is not what the OP claims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JT35 View Post
    I used to play this game a lot. And I remember how Rapid Synthesis was labeled to hit 50% of the time, but that it always hit no more than 20-25% Tops.

    So I come back to the game a few days ago thinking that surely by now they either fixed the bugged or relabeled it to the ACTUAL success rate...


    NOPE.
    Still hits like 1 out of 5 on average.

    If you only want it to hit 20%, then fine. It's your game.
    But LABEL IT AS SUCH.
    OR FIX IT.
    "I don't understand probability and statistics."
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