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    PirateRyanG's Avatar
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    Can we get a 'Role Sprout' icon?

    I was in Satasha earlier, and there was a new tank, albeit one that had clearly played the game for a while since they had the Endwalker title and no sprout.

    Their tank stance was off. Which was fine. I told them and they said they didn't know how to turn it on, so I explained it. We rolled on.

    Earlier, I decided to dive into the mysteries of Sage, and the healing experience is completely different to my WHM. Of course, I was catapulted right into a level 70 dungeon, and while I had a rough idea of what was going on, I couldn't quite grasp the whole idea of not overhealing.

    So, can we get some sort of 'Role Sprout' icon?

    You lose it after you have done 20-30 dungeons at a minimum of level 60.

    This way, people know that you may not be able to perform to the absolute best of your abilities and can give some helpful advice along the way.

    For example, when I first started healing on my WHM, I just assumed that Cure 3 should be my go-to spell from there on. Luckily, somebody informed me on the first dungeon that I had Cure 3 unlocked.

    I have only just realised that Medica 1 heals for more than Medica 2 too. Actually, I have only just realised that Medica is always cast on self, not on your target. (yes, I am dumb)

    But there are a lot of intricacies to this game, and it automatically assumes that somebody who has spent hundreds of hours tanking will easily be able to fall into something like, idk, BLM.
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    Can we get people to read tooltips instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Can we get people to read tooltips instead?
    Yes. That was my mistake. Cure 3 should not have been named Cure 3 anyway, because that makes people assume that it is an upgrade from Cure 2. Still, I think the game doesn't have this problem in the other languages. Just the English version.

    And with the Medica thing, one automatically assumes that since every other spell that you get up to that point is cast on your target, that one would be too...Although, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter too much there anyway.

    However, some roles are very confusing if you are plunged in the deep end, tooltips or not.
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    Last edited by PirateRyanG; 10-30-2022 at 10:22 AM.

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    I just assume that almost everyone in dungeons is either new to the game or new to the job they are playing. Sometimes they are not, but it is very frequently the case. Judging by most of what I see I think you can just assume people are new in casual content anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    Yes. That was my mistake. Cure 3 should not have been named Cure 3 anyway, because that makes people assume that it is an upgrade from Cure 2. Still, I think the game doesn't have this problem in the other languages. Just the English version.

    And with the Medica thing, one automatically assumes that since every other spell that you get up to that point is cast on your target, that one would be too...Although, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter too much there anyway.

    However, some roles are very confusing if you are plunged in the deep end, tooltips or not.
    Then I suggest you do that because medica 2 has a regen attached that makes it heal way more than medica 1 in total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Then I suggest you do that because medica 2 has a regen attached that makes it heal way more than medica 1 in total.
    Yes. I understand that. I am aware of how Medica 2 heals...

    Before, I would use Medica 2 twice in the midst of intense damage, just to get everybody back up. Not realising that outside of the regen, Medica 1 was more potent.

    So, now I understand that Medica 2 followed by Medica 1 would be a better choice.

    As I said, it is my mistake. I admitted my mistake.

    But it does seem like 90% of your posts on this forum seem to be attacking people? So, I guess it doesn't matter whether I admit it or not.

    I was just saying why it may be important to have a 'role sprout' option so people can learn their roles, even when their normal sprout has long since disappeared.
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    You know that's actually not a bad idea.
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    This didn't happen, this, like all of TC's threads are lies
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    This didn't happen, this, like all of TC's threads are lies
    None of my posts have been lies, but OK.

    Why must you jump on me every damn time?

    It happened. I am sure many of the people here have also had a tank in an early dungeon that didn't know about tank stance. It isn't all that uncommon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    None of my posts have been lies, but OK.

    Why must you jump on me every damn time?
    Because you're a troll. Your posting history is indicative of this. I'm also far from the only person calling you out on your BS
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