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  1. #41
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    Kalaam's Avatar
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    Kalaam Nozalys
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    Phantom
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Don't worry, the jobs are boring as sh*t in Savage as well. I'm baffled at who this job design is for, exactly.
    Oh I know, I just mean that I hear people say you can only feel like you're doing something when doing savage
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  2. #42
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    CKNovel's Avatar
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    FoF now evolves into Requiescat.
    Oath gauge is now used for Atonement.

    Congratulations WAR 2.0, you are getting rescued.
    Please do not resist.
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  3. #43
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Don't worry, the jobs are boring as sh*t in Savage as well. I'm baffled at who this job design is for, exactly.
    It's for everyone
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  4. #44
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    Payadopa's Avatar
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalaam View Post
    Oh I know, I just mean that I hear people say you can only feel like you're doing something when doing savage
    I raid and it does feel better but... I could be way better, honestly. Personally speaking, the rotations are too static for me.
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  5. #45
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    Grimahed Darkovin
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    FoF now evolves into Requiescat.
    Oath gauge is now used for Atonement.

    Congratulations WAR 2.0, you are getting rescued.
    Please do not resist.
    More like WAR 3.0, they already gut DRK into a WAR with more ogcd's in shadowbringers and double downed on it in Endwalker. I wait to see what they do to PLD with nothing but dread
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  6. #46
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    ArcaviusGreyashe's Avatar
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    Sikah'to Tahqa
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    I'm not. 2 minute meta is boring and I'd rather them fix that than change PLD to force it into a boring playstyle.
    Let's not discuss the "change 18 jobs rather than changing mine" side of things, and focus on why the 2 minutes meta is good for the game.

    A party that has its bursts aligned provides the boss designers with a map of how and when the party, however they may be formed, will burst. Therefore, they can plan to have specific mechanics in off times or in burst times, depending if they want it to be hard or not, impose some solutions, or drive the players to be creative. It also emphases a lot the synergy inside a team, as 8 good players that don't burst at the same time will have a significantly inferior dps than 8 mediocre players that synchronize. That in itself is a pretty good reason to have those burst windows.

    I'm a main PLD, have been for years, with the occasional WAR in SB. I really like playing PLD, it's the funnier it's been for the entirety of the game's life. But the thing is : it doesn't fit with the meta, and that makes it a badly designed job. Will they gut it ? Probably. But if it enables me to be more efficient for my static while letting me play PLD, with its aesthetic and core identity (more CDs, a mix of physical and magical attacks), it's good news.
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  7. #47
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    NakanoTEA's Avatar
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    Micu Padron
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 90
    The problem comes when instead of adapting the job to the new meta, they get rid of the complexity it has. I don't mind if they change it completely, I just want to have a tank that isn't braindead to optimize with.
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  8. #48
    Player Mithron's Avatar
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    Mithron Scarlet
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    Let's not discuss the "change 18 jobs rather than changing mine" side of things, and focus on why the 2 minutes meta is good for the game.
    Changing 18 jobs is better when all 18 jobs are saying the same thing: "We don't like two minute burst meta." The root cause of the problem is not that PLD isn't fun to play because it doesn't fit into the two minute burst meta. The root cause is that the two minute burst meta is not fun to play.
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  9. #49
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    Titoulakikoute's Avatar
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    Hoon Strike
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    Moogle
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    can we expect summoner level rework? like new spells or spells removal ?

    or mostly it will be little changes that wil affect a bit the gameplay?
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  10. #50
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    not fun to play.
    Subjective, and therefore irrelevant
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