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  1. #11
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    Serjle Fields
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    I’d honestly be okay with FoF being gone and your magic combo giving the buff. They could just keep the magic phase every minute.

    I would like to see Phalanx in PVE since I like the animation, maybe as an upgrade to Divine Veil or have it use oath gauge. Just would need a different effect.
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Viper Lv 100
    I do hope this rework focus on PLD utility and defensive kit as well despite being the selfless tank its utility is the most flawed of all 4
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  3. #13
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    I do hope this rework focus on PLD utility and defensive kit as well despite being the selfless tank its utility is the most flawed of all 4
    I feel like cover is a big reason why PLD's current defensives are possibly bad, two raid wides should generally are also another reason I guess?

    Wondering if there could be a rework for cover where it would become a PLD tanking cd that could also be used on others.
    I feel like the current problem with cover is that it's too niche, theirs many changes to either overhaul it or buff it that would make PLD a much better job personally.

    More issues like: Raid wides not effecting the paladin and both being janky, Intervention being worse then holy shelltron, other targetable short cds are generally the same or better, Blocks being a bit situational (normally not a issue but with dots and stuff it can be), PLDS sustain being tied mostly to dps rotation unlike warrior whos free to use their sustain when they want, HG being super long ect.

    Not like PLD's a bad "defensive tank" arguably it's pretty strong in aoe situations and dungeon runs, but it's kit certainly doesn't translate well in raids or sustained hard hitting fights. I think the problem is in general its defensive kit is very janky needs some fixing and at least making cover less situational and a few other things would put PLD's defensives on par with the other tanks.

    I'd personally go further as I do think PLD should be the king of support and great defensively but I know that will have to be weighed aganist things like damage, so it can be kinda hard to make sure PLD does enough but its utilites are enough to justify being like 0.5%-1% behind the top or something.
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    they should just make Cover grant 20% damage mitigation while it's in effect, applied to the paladin side of the cover. This means you could be MT as PLD, cover the OT, take a TB yourself and still benefit from the 20% mit. This would give PLD the missing CD it doesn't have compared to every other tank, and allow it to be able to more easily mitigate bleeds (block doesnt work on them so this tier PLD melts like paper in the rain). Keep the gauge cost to balance it though, so using Sheltron, Cover would take 100 gauge, requiring the PLD to think about if they can afford to Sheltron autos leading up to the TB or not.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    they should just make Cover grant 20% damage mitigation while it's in effect, applied to the paladin side of the cover. This means you could be MT as PLD, cover the OT, take a TB yourself and still benefit from the 20% mit. This would give PLD the missing CD it doesn't have compared to every other tank, and allow it to be able to more easily mitigate bleeds (block doesnt work on them so this tier PLD melts like paper in the rain). Keep the gauge cost to balance it though, so using Sheltron, Cover would take 100 gauge, requiring the PLD to think about if they can afford to Sheltron autos leading up to the TB or not.
    PLD did have 20% dr on cover in SB and it didn't cost oath gauge was just a 2 minute CD
    was extremely good but they definitely over nerfed it in ShB didnt need to remove DR and make it cost oath gauge
    either or would have been fine
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    Lucretia Ryusagi
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    Paladin has a lot of flaws at the moment starting at the core rotation. I hope they do good changes.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    I've been trying PLD, it's quite satisfying to play.

    FoF is kinda weird at the moment and the defensive definitely needs some rework (looking at Divine Veil, Cover and Passage of Arms).
    I hope they keep the sustained DPS aspect, with GNB it's the only tank that has a DPS rotation engaging.

    I don't want to see a second Warrior, PLD doesn't have oGCDs to even be like DRK.
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  8. #18
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I've been trying PLD, it's quite satisfying to play.

    FoF is kinda weird at the moment and the defensive definitely needs some rework (looking at Divine Veil, Cover and Passage of Arms).
    I hope they keep the sustained DPS aspect, with GNB it's the only tank that has a DPS rotation engaging.

    I don't want to see a second Warrior, PLD doesn't have oGCDs to even be like DRK.
    Yeah I really and I mean really hope they go light on the changes, If we're talking about the DPS aspect a lot of PLD players really love the job for its unique rotation compared to other tanks.

    PLD my go to job always, GNB is my second go to tank because i enjoy how both generally feel.
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    Victor Theed
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    I wish they'd just combine the devine veil skill as another effect of that one skill we're the blue wing things come out & last a long time, the one u do to protect the party when a big party wide aoe is coming.

    Other then that just tidy up the button bloat just a little bit more, EW PLD is my fav version of PLD.
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    Minati Illu
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    PLD did have 20% dr on cover in SB and it didn't cost oath gauge was just a 2 minute CD
    was extremely good but they definitely over nerfed it in ShB didnt need to remove DR and make it cost oath gauge
    either or would have been fine
    Tbh the hardest nerf on Cover is the boss design. There wasn't as much tank swaps during SB so you could freely Cover the MT. Each boss since EW forces a swap or hit both tanks with their tankbusters. P1S, P4S, P5S TBs give a vulnerability up debuff, P2S, P3S, P6S, P7S and P8S have either shared TBs or TBs on both tanks at the same time. Cover now is just kinda useful when things go south and you can protect your SAM from getting auto'ed from existence.
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