(SPOILERS) Sin Easters in future content?

[Iscah]

Time is not constant between the shards. It is entirely possible for the golems to have been cast in the image of Sin Eaters without mucking anything up.

Time isn't constant, but we do have the date for the Flood of Light, which was in its early stages when the Warriors of Darkness were brought to the Source, and then they returned with Minfilia.

It's not entirely impossible to wrangle it that sin eaters were already spawning in those early days, and the time alignment got really wonky around that point and the initial triggering of the Flood happened all the way back in the Source's Fifth Astral Era, but that feels convoluted to me.

[JeanneOrnitier]

I find the notion of the sin eaters not being strictly the domain of the First more interesting, though.

In theory any sufficiently overwhelming light aether imbalance should turn someone, with nothing about the process requiring that it be on the First. I really think it's the easiest explanation for how Amdapor saw Sin Eaters.

[Kranel_San]

A different plane of existence while we also explore XIV Ultima's backstory more

[jameseoakes]

In theory any sufficiently overwhelming light aether imbalance should turn someone, with nothing about the process requiring that it be on the First. I really think it's the easiest explanation for how Amdapor saw Sin Eaters.

They say somewhere that the process that makes the sineaters work only really works on the first due to the how over aspected to light the world is. On the source the light imblance that leads to the slow turning in to a sineater wouldn't happen as they would rebalance there ather with the ambient ather. The Amdapor stuff really doesn't seem to have any kind of meaningful link

[KageTokage]

I feel like there's still a lot about the nature of light/darkness we don't understand, like how their sway over a world is actually influenced.

We're simply told that the actions of Ardbert and company/the corrupted memoriates caused the influence of light/dark to swell until it eventually caused a flood, but we're not really told anything about why they were able to do that.

[Enkidoh]

They say somewhere that the process that makes the sineaters work only really works on the first due to the how over aspected to light the world is. On the source the light imblance that leads to the slow turning in to a sineater wouldn't happen as they would rebalance there ather with the ambient ather. The Amdapor stuff really doesn't seem to have any kind of meaningful link

It doesn't - SE just reused models for two specific sineater enemies which happened to be the same design as the animated statues in Amdapor without any lore connection. Given we've seen voidsent taking the same form as plant enemies that 'naturally' occur on the Source (the dryad type which is a cross between a beetle, flower bulb and humanoid), similary without any lore explanation to my knowledge, I think the whole "Amdapor based it's animated statues on beings from another plane" thing is just window dressing with no deeper lore connection, and especially not to the First.

Hence unless SE states outright that theory as correct ("Amdapor statues were based directly on sineaters"), I'm going to regard it as just another model reuse with no deeper lore connection or implication.

[sidurgu-12]

I feel like there's still a lot about the nature of light/darkness we don't understand, like how their sway over a world is actually influenced.

We're simply told that the actions of Ardbert and company/the corrupted memoriates caused the influence of light/dark to swell until it eventually caused a flood, but we're not really told anything about why they were able to do that.

My on the spot theory is unlike other forms aether light and dark aether are sort of linked to dynamis so strong emotions from a very large group can increase a certain type.

[KageTokage]

It doesn't - SE just reused models for two specific sineater enemies which happened to be the same design as the animated statues in Amdapor without any lore connection. Given we've seen voidsent taking the same form as plant enemies that 'naturally' occur on the Source (the dryad type which is a cross between a beetle, flower bulb and humanoid), similary without any lore explanation to my knowledge, I think the whole "Amdapor based it's animated statues on beings from another plane" thing is just window dressing with no deeper lore connection, and especially not to the First.

Hence unless SE states outright that theory as correct ("Amdapor statues were based directly on sineaters"), I'm going to regard it as just another model reuse with no deeper lore connection or implication.

I find it a little odd that they chose to specifically draw attention to the matter in-game because if you bring Alphinaud to Mt. Gulg, he remarks that the first boss has an uncanny resemblance to the golems of Amdapor.

Granted, that's literally the only time it's brought up, so it could just be more window dressing.

[JeanneOrnitier]

It's mentioned in Encyclopedia Eorzea (granted before we knew what Sin Eaters were) and Alphinaud brings it up at Mt. Gulg. There's something there, though Square themselves may not have even come up with the how yet.

[Cleretic]

We know that it's entirely possible to make artificial voidsent through means outside of what created the Void, so it stands to reason that the opposite absolutely creates Sin Eaters. And if there's any civilization that learned that through the classic 'fuck around>find out' pipeline, it was the one that invented White Magic. No connection to the First required.

Not that them connecting to the First probably would've produced anything; the wibbly-wobbly nature of time in relation to the shards seems to only relate to the fact they all flow in the same direction but different rates. If it was possible for them to be flowing backward, G'raha's plan would look very different, as would the Ascians' in relation to the Thirteenth. So if Amdapor found the First, they were more likely to have found Ronkans than Sin Eaters.