(SPOILERS) Sin Easters in future content?

[Travel]

Something I found to be interesting; was kinda hoping to see some more stuff about Sin Eaters in future content, especially since we have so much stuff over the Voidsent currently. I mean, I know we got an entire expansion over them, but I do think that the devs could potentially take them a bit further on later down the line.

We could see Sin Eaters with actual personalities, for instance; Titiana and Innocence are proof that a Sin Eater can be something other than a mindless beast. Similarly, there could be room for some different varieties of Sin Eater designs; I mean, we did get a few unique appearances for the Lightwardens and such, but in comparison to the much more colorful and varied Voidsent, a lot of the designs were just a bit more forgettable.

What do you guys think?

[Iscah]

I don't really see the point of it.

Not every monster has to turn out to be intelligent and reasonable deep inside. It's narratively okay to have a curse that turns people into mindless monsters we are forced to fight.

What benefit would we actually gain from having a plot about intelligent sin eaters that wouldn't just be repeating what we're doing with voidsent?

I actually like the idea that voidsent and sin eaters aren't simply equal opposites and that their different types of absolute aether imbalances give very different results.

[Enkidoh]

Also the situation that led to the formation of the sineaters in the first place has since been resolved with banishing the Eternal Light from the First forever and fixing the Emptiness (restoring it's elemental balance), so the creation of new sineaters will start to wane as they're gradually destroyed and the stronger ones with the 'touch' start to die out.

And sineaters by their nature were mindless - Vauthry/Innocence and Titania were actually exceptions rather than the rule that came about due to exceptional circumstances (one can argue that Titania wasn't really all there in the head either and was utterly deranged, being a sineater formed from a fae. And Innocence was a result of Emet deliberately infusing sineater essence directly into a pregnant woman's womb to infect her unborn child, so those are exceptions to the normal sineaters and Lightwardens that formed from the Flood of Light).

Those are extreme circumstances that really will not and cannot be repeated, and the restoration of the Emptiness into aetheric stability has meant that the sineaters will fade away, in both lore and gameplay/meta wise.

[Cleretic]

I wouldn't say further storylines about Sin Eaters are impossible, and they'd definitely be more interesting to me than most other potentially returning antagonistic forces (no, I do not want More Goddamn Imperials or Ascians). But as Enkidoh pointed out: they're not exactly a renewable resource plentiful in places that we normally go. To do more Sin Eater Content we'd need to find a new source of Sin Eaters. And Iscah's right that doing that would most likely not lead to intelligent Sin Eaters, since those were a rare exception; more likely you're just seeing a zombie outbreak with more Biblical imagery, and... well, we've already done that, so why repeat it if you wanted a zombie outbreak when you could instead make different zombies we haven't seen, that don't need to adhere to a pre-existing ruleset?

Personally I liked the Sin Eaters from the 'weird monsters with barely a semblance of humanity left' angle, like we saw with the Cardinal Virtues, so your pitch of 'more Sin Eaters with personality' even falls dead to me, who would like more Sin Eater content. I'm not even sure you want more Sin Eater content, since the thing you brought forward were the exceptions to their default nature rather than the rule.

[VictorTheed]

Sin Eaters were pretty awesome, I wouldn't mind seeing them return or if we got more lore about them.

[KageTokage]

It has been suggested that sin eaters may exist somewhere outside of the First given that the Amdapori golems were believed to have been inspired by visions of "beings from another plane" and preceded the flood of light.

Whether that's another shard or some new plane of reality entirely is something I'm curious to see.

[JeanneOrnitier]

I could see Sin Eaters coming back if we ever get more Amdapor content, to explore how the Amdapori knew what they were in order to make golems shaped like them. Maybe it could be in a Variant Dungeon.
(My theory is some Sin Eaters manifested on other shards just not nearly to the extent of the First; in the same way Voeburt had some Voidsent, or Leviathan has his Drowned pirate guys mutated by water aether).

They shouldn't have some secret intelligence though. I like the idea of them being different from the Voidsent in instinct vs intellect.

[RyuDragnier]

It has been suggested that sin eaters may exist somewhere outside of the First given that the Amdapori golems were believed to have been inspired by visions of "beings from another plane" and preceded the flood of light.

Whether that's another shard or some new plane of reality entirely is something I'm curious to see.

Perhaps from wherever Ultima came from. We STILL don't know where she was from, after all.

[Absimiliard]

It has been suggested that sin eaters may exist somewhere outside of the First given that the Amdapori golems were believed to have been inspired by visions of "beings from another plane" and preceded the flood of light.

Whether that's another shard or some new plane of reality entirely is something I'm curious to see.

Time is not constant between the shards. It is entirely possible for the golems to have been cast in the image of Sin Eaters without mucking anything up.

Alternatively, as another poster has put forward, it could easily be that some Sin Eaters wound up in other worlds through various means. A world where the aether is still in balance would in all probability make it impossible for them to make more of themselves in the usual way - or at least make it more difficult.

[KageTokage]

I suppose if 100 years could pass in the span of what was merely a month or two on our side of things the flood could've reasonably happened during the time of Amdapor/Mhach.

I find the notion of the sin eaters not being strictly the domain of the First more interesting, though.