C-c-c-combo Breaker Woes Begone

[Camate]

Greetings!

We are currently looking into creating a marker to be displayed in version 2.0 that will make it easier to determine which way the enemy you are fighting is facing so that combos can be executed without having to worry about whether or not your target is facing the correct way. However, with any online game, there is always the chance of encountering some amount of latency, so it's not a 100% guarantee each and every time.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Good news everyone

[Babydoll]

Nice! Looking forward to it

[Soukyuu]

It sounds good, but ... why another indicator that needs same update as the monster model itself? Why not just update monster's position more efficiently?

[ESAR]

It sounds good, but ... why another indicator that needs same update as the monster model itself? Why not just update monster's position more efficiently?

Honestly, they just can't really.
No matter how they swing it there's always gonna be a slight lag.
Best they can do is take away as much as they can, but for someone like me, the lowest ping to the servers in japan is 350ms or 1/3 a second.
That's not including lag through my ISP, there's, server lag or lag from my PC.

I'm sure though they can make some improvements on what they had though. At the very least trick us into not noticing it as much.

With online games there's always a little guesswork, like shooters, always aim just ever so slightly in front

[Soukyuu]

Honestly, they just can't really.
No matter how they swing it there's always gonna be a slight lag.

Updating an indicator or a model position is all the same to your network or the game, so while there might be cases where it will be easier to tell where the mob is facing, it will do absolutely nothing in terms of improving the speed of the update.

edit: unless they can somehow implement it in a more reliable way than usual position synchs, which is kinda unlikely seeing them struggling with stuff that should be easy on a decent engine. If that's a temporary solution for 1.x, then it good to have. But for 2.0, they better fix their positioning code instead of overloading the UI even more.

[Roaran]

Updating an indicator or a model position is all the same to your network or the game, so while there might be cases where it will be easier to tell where the mob is facing, it will do absolutely nothing in terms of improving the speed of the update.

edit: unless they can somehow implement it in a more reliable way than usual position synchs, which is kinda unlikely seeing them struggling with stuff that should be easy on a decent engine. If that's a temporary solution for 1.x, then it good to have. But for 2.0, they better fix their positioning code instead of overloading the UI even more.

This.

Throwing more things onto the UI to make up for mechanics that simply do not work well is a mistake... and a big one. I hope this is nothing more than temporary.

What this can help with is tell the player the actual facing of the mob, as the models usually do not update in sync very well.

[Forerunner]

Honestly, they just can't really.
No matter how they swing it there's always gonna be a slight lag.
Best they can do is take away as much as they can, but for someone like me, the lowest ping to the servers in japan is 350ms or 1/3 a second.
That's not including lag through my ISP, there's, server lag or lag from my PC.

I'm sure though they can make some improvements on what they had though. At the very least trick us into not noticing it as much.

With online games there's always a little guesswork, like shooters, always aim just ever so slightly in front

350 ms ping is 3.5 seconds, 33 ms ping is 1/3 of a second.

>_>

3.5 seconds delay on stuff seems right with the way I run out of stuff, still die then slide across others' screens.

[Soukyuu]

350 ms ping is 3.5 seconds, 33 ms ping is 1/3 of a second.

Wrong. 3500ms is 3.5 seconds, ms being milliseconds or a 1/1000 seconds. You're probably confusing it for microseconds, which is 1/10 and is written as µs

>_>

3.5 seconds delay on stuff seems right with the way I run out of stuff, still die then slide across others' screens.

The delay is higher because the ping only accounts for a single packet reaching the server, it doesn't account for processing times on the server nor for the time a response packet needs to reach you, nor for the fact that usually it needs more than one packet to deliver the data.

In short, ping is not really reliable for determining your exact latency.

[Skies]

It sounds good, but ... why another indicator that needs same update as the monster model itself? Why not just update monster's position more efficiently?

Essentially, during the shower of particle effects of most team efforts it's very, very difficult to keep track of where the frontal side of the enemy even is at all times.
Furthermore, there are certain mobs which have ambiguous fronts, for example the majority of the Amal'jaa. You basically have to aim for their left shoulder instead of the front side of their torso because because stand in a sideways battle stance, making their 'front', that is the side that faces you, closer to their left side than their actual front side.