Dragoon LB vs Everybody elses

[LifeupOmega]

I want to see how people play when they say DRG suffers in FL given you can pick any ranged player you like and obliterate them + their friends with a 3 button combo, there's a reason you see majority DRK/WAR/DRG in qsyncs. I'd find it funny if you couldn't reliably be top 3 damage/kills playing as DRG tbh.

[Kathleen_]

here let me address why you are wrong.

In FL you can use your dragoon lb on a group of people and kill nobody

Maybe you should try syncing your burst. lol

[Blinding_Awesomeness]

. . . I feel I do fine with dragoon in FL, even with solo queue.

[Karasio]

. . . I feel I do fine with dragoon in FL, even with solo queue.

Yeah it's almost like you can communicate effectively with your people when you have your burst / LB up. Towa is just stupid, don't listen to them lmao.

[Towa-Musa]

Maybe you should try syncing your burst. lol

[Towa-Musa]

I want to see how people play when they say DRG suffers in FL given you can pick any ranged player you like and obliterate them + their friends with a 3 button combo, there's a reason you see majority DRK/WAR/DRG in qsyncs. I'd find it funny if you couldn't reliably be top 3 damage/kills playing as DRG tbh.

i get 10 to 26 kills on average and got the slaughter house title before the new pvp changes even dropped.

[Towa-Musa]

...and we already found why you think the way you do. Everything I explained has zero bearing to Frontlines, a mode that the jobs are NOT balanced around and gets scraps off the table when actual issues arise, such as LB artillery fire wiping whole alliances or PLD's Onsal Hakair shenanigans.

Dragoon is a fine job in Crystalline Conflict. If it suffers in Frontline, that is of course sad for the Dragoon player in question, but you can hardly ask for a widescale change just because their job underperforms in a side mode

No, you don't need to go on because you describe issues mostly found in largescale pvp, particularly modes that don't split their objectives well enough - in short, Frontlines. Of course other jobs will bring more value to the table in large scale fights, particularly defensive utility such as PLD + SGE Limit Break, NIN Limit Break executes or literally anything with a CC ability.

Funnily enough, in another post you play clear favourites and loved the time when Dragoon could spam Piercing Talon for maximum combo damage and build their whole burst at distance while Elusive Jump was not tied to any damage ability. In that same time period, it was Monks who struggled greatly to survive in Frontlines, let alone get value playing their job.

Not every job can be good in Frontlines without dedicating the balancing directly to Frontlines and ignoring Crystalline Conflict. The same applied to The Feast back then.


I have ignored nothing - Dragoon is a simple high damage bruiser DPS in the setting that PvP is currently balanced around. Removing the AOE marker would "maybe" benefit Frontlines, but would be a total disaster in Crystalline Conflict where the outcome of a match could turn in SECONDS, such as the three to five seconds a Dragoon may hover with their marker. If you made that invisible, the natural reaction would be for everyone to scatter, but they wouldn't know where. This is an awful change, especially since we don't have a "watch for <x> LB!" quickchat yet.

You called me "wrong" and said I'm reaching, called my reasoning "flawed and invalid". But it is you who never mentioned in their original post that your complaint is about Dragoon IN FRONTLINES. Maybe if you made your post about f-ing FRONTLINES and how DRG suffers in there in your view, people wouldn't be so inclined to disagree with your change.

Before you challenge my reading comprehension, work on your ability to form arguments that actually are consistent to your main post.

its just as bad in CC lol LB on the point and everybody is using their guard+ your team has no idea what they are doing= congratulations you earned Defeat rp
Ngl you seem to have a nack for typing up a paragraph just to say a whole lot of nothing, honestly imma just block you since you are not really giving me any good reasons to listen to you let alone any of your BS feedback.

[Ransu]

I want to see how people play when they say DRG suffers in FL given you can pick any ranged player you like and obliterate them + their friends with a 3 button combo, there's a reason you see majority DRK/WAR/DRG in qsyncs. I'd find it funny if you couldn't reliably be top 3 damage/kills playing as DRG tbh.

Ya I don't really think DRG is all that bad in FL, but FL is also just an lol mode that no one should take seriously.

Its a bad form of PvP and honestly we'd be better off if they got rid of the 72 player format and gave us an 8v8 or something with fun objectives like capture the flag, or hell any pvp mode from swtor outside of hypergate. Something similar to modes like huttball or the 3 point capture points like on the Alderaan map or novare coast would be a ton of fun. Heck even something similar to void star with attack/defend different sections where the attackers had to plant bombs on a door to advance. swtor pvp was a ton of fun and I'd love to see cool gamemodes like that make its way to ffxiv.

edit:

An naturally I read Towa's 3 replies out of curiosity and as usually they prove they have no idea how to pvp.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

its just as bad in CC lol LB on the point and everybody is using their guard+ your team has no idea what they are doing= congratulations you earned Defeat rp
Ngl you seem to have a nack for typing up a paragraph just to say a whole lot of nothing, honestly imma just block you since you are not really giving me any good reasons to listen to you let alone any of your BS feedback.

One would think it is better to actually explain things in greater detail, alas I was wrong. You'd think they'd get the memo that ripping Guard out of multiple people with an LB is good, but hey can't fix ignorance.

Guys, Towa is literally a lost cause to us. May they rest in peace.

If Towa finds peace by blocking everyone who they disagree with, that is sad but I hope they don't treat every avenue in life like this.

[Towa-Musa]

if anybody *else* has something constructive to say please do so, i aint got time for people who just type up a paragraph only to say nothing multiple times or anybody who brings nothing to the conversation and proceeds to say *hurrdurr yer bad omega lul* we are better then that.