Dragoon LB vs Everybody elses

[Towa-Musa]

Dragoons LB is incredibly bad VS everybody elses because how telegraphed it is and how long it takes before you can even use it, The only use it has is maybe getting people to burn their guard or running away *due to the small shield it gives you*

Here's the changes i propose:
Make it like PVE LB or similar where its just you press the button and its basically just a high jump that's all sparkly/fancy that does alot of damage.

[Latarma]

oh just remove the telegraph and allow it to not be guarded problem solved imo

[LifeupOmega]

It's still up there in "can be countered but can also wreck players", especially when combined with DRK or DNC initiating for you. Pretty fine with it in all regards because if you have eyes you can counter it fine, but if you're not paying attention or get combo'd you take the hit.

[Towa-Musa]

oh just remove the telegraph and allow it to not be guarded problem solved imo

that also works.

[Towa-Musa]

It's still up there in "can be countered but can also wreck players", especially when combined with DRK or DNC initiating for you. Pretty fine with it in all regards because if you have eyes you can counter it fine, but if you're not paying attention or get combo'd you take the hit.

literally EVERY OTHER CLASS can slap the crap out of you with their LB with no prob, Dragoon has a 'Im landing here please CC me when i come down' marker and its terrible.

[ThaCa]

Bard LB is by far the worst in PvP. Long recharge, can get line of sighted, needs to have people nearby AND stay alive to let it run its course. In theory it allows team to snowball, in practise that happens basically never as it is also wasted on people that are banking their LBs at the moment.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

I fail to see how Dragoon LB is bad. [Sky High] -> [Sky Shatter] may have significant counterplay, but is far from bad.

The first part is essentially defensive in nature and is probably what others see as the bad part. It generates a drop-down marker for everyone to see, which currently is light blue regardless of team, something I'd suggest should change especially in DRG vs DRG scenarios when they both use it at the same time. However, this can be used psychologically to force action. You can also boost the speed at which your marker travels if you previously used Elusive Jump.

[Sky Shatter] is a threat with a minimum 20000 AOE damage, 30000 within 5y radius, which can and ideally should be amplified by Geirskogul's +25% dmg dealt. While it can be countered, regardless of the method you force the enemy to act.

If they Guard, you forced Guard, meaning they don't have it for the next 25-29s. If they don't, you force them to heal for 1-2 Recuperate, costing them 2500-5000MP. If they run off, you essentially zoned the enemy out of the position you dropped onto. At the end of the cast, you also gain a 25% HP shield, which together with Horrid Roar lets you live through some damage even after the touchdown.

Even if you don't kill, you force resources out of the enemy team. The more targets the better.

[Nanne]

literally EVERY OTHER CLASS can slap the crap out of you with their LB with no prob, Dragoon has a 'Im landing here please CC me when i come down' marker and its terrible.

How do you want the damage to work then? It should be nerfed heavily if you want it to snapshot instantly

[Duskane]

could just give it the balloon/sephirot stack mechanic where it shoots people up for a short amount of time

[nighttimebunny]

I really highly doubt they will change DRG LB. It’s already one of the most fun, simplest to pick up and powerful jobs imo.