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    Kio's Avatar
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    Kio Solais
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    Hyperion
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    I really beg them to walk back on this decision. The friendlist requirement is fine, but limiting what you can gift altogether is a step too far and really hurts the players and community.
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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Some light reading to give some more insight into this situation.
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    Equinox Axxion
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Some light reading to give some more insight into this situation.
    the sad part is that i can see that. Keep in mind that we recently have surge of accounts being hacked because of A) people are "leaving" or B) there is a some giveaway on the se site

    and in turn wise they have access to you payment information and buying codes and re selling them.

    But also the buying of clears as well. they legilty need your info just to do it.

    Best way to say this is there way to idiot proof

    https://imgur.com/F9rkuLz


    but the actual mount is 30 usd
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    Last edited by Axxion; 10-27-2022 at 06:05 AM.
    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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    Miyako Aikawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Some light reading to give some more insight into this situation.
    More anxiously, it's almost certainly not SE's first really big chargeback event, either, which may have put them on especially high alert.

    Don't forget the big panic of 2017, where thanks to them taking so long (it would take this event to spur them to do so) to implement a shopping cart on Mog Station, they received an avalanche of chargebacks in early Stormblood during a MS sale. So one might wonder just how close SE may in fact really be to being cut off by their payment provider

    Their payment processor status may even now thus very well, unbeknownst to us customers, be serious enough to justify actively attempting to slow down the amount of purchase activity from any given customer, because if you recall the Stormblood incident, the reason there were so many chargebacks was actually because of several card issuing banks adopting heuristic fraud checking that, if the algorithm decided the pattern of charges was sufficiently "suspicious," would actually automatically charge back the transactions, often literally without the card holder's consent or even notification (resulting in further chaos as often the first notification of this having gone wrong would be affected players suddenly receiving emails notifying them they had been banned from FFXIV, with an arduous account recovery procedure ahead of them at best).

    Since there's a cart now, personal purchases are largely no longer subject to this worry, but imagine somebody buying several gifts in a short frame of time for different people, in different transactions: oops, here we go again!
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    Tiger Lilia
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Amarande View Post
    More anxiously, it's almost certainly not SE's first really big chargeback event, either, which may have put them on especially high alert.

    Don't forget the big panic of 2017, where thanks to them taking so long (it would take this event to spur them to do so) to implement a shopping cart on Mog Station, they received an avalanche of chargebacks in early Stormblood during a MS sale. So one might wonder just how close SE may in fact really be to being cut off by their payment provider
    They absolutely shot themselves in the foot with this. It was stupid not to have a shopping cart in 2017 in the first place. Lord knows we'd been asking for it for years.

    For those that weren't there: Because there was no cart, if you wanted to purchase several dyes for example, you had to do the same transaction several times. Banks were flagging this as fraudulent (because who would pay the same amount 5x in a row at the same vendor) and issuing chargebacks which saw the player banned. It was a real mess, all because SE were running a completely archaic system.
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    Last edited by Tigerlilley; 10-26-2022 at 08:15 PM.

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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Some light reading to give some more insight into this situation.
    Started thinking along this line before I even managed to open the thread.

    This isn't the sort of decision a company makes on a whim. Something forced their hand. It could be temporary while they work on improving or redesigning systems. But it might also take a minute for them to develop any viable means of authentication that don't lead us back here.

    This has "orders came in from the higher ups" written all over it.
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    Celica Yascaret
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    Famfrit
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    *shrugs* I enjoy seeing the meltdown over something so small and insignificant yet if you even breathe “do your rotation” that’s offensive. This community gets up in arms about the silliest things.
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuled View Post
    *shrugs* I enjoy seeing the meltdown over something so small and insignificant yet if you even breathe “do your rotation” that’s offensive. This community gets up in arms about the silliest things.
    I'm glad we have you with these pointless monologues to tell us what is and is not significant.
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 86
    Wait. I can't gift people things anymore?
    That sucks. it was my go-to for birthdays to give someone a cheapo cash shop emote.

    wtf.
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    Xaar Krey
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Denji View Post
    Wait. I can't gift people things anymore?
    That sucks. it was my go-to for birthdays to give someone a cheapo cash shop emote.

    wtf.
    Correct, but you can still gift outfits and fantasias. Basically anything that isn't 1-time use.

    But no more mounts, minions, emotes
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