Hating the new mog station restrictions.

[JamieRose]

Gifting emotes and mounts was a key part of this community.

Hosting an IRL FFXIV trivia night? Perhaps at a con? What better reward than a store mount for the first place?

Hosting a discord giveaway, or one in an RP venue? Cash shop gift.

Anniversary with the Eternally Bound coming up? Hey babe have a chocobo carriage I know you've been wanting it.

Just, let us give you money dammit. I had an event planned for someone I care about, there's a store mount she's really been wanting that I wanted to give her. And now I can't give her that.

I know SE listens to the community, so I wanted to add my voice to the chorus: Let us buy gift codes.

"Oh but what if they already have it?" then the receiver can re-gift it, or they can contact SE, or any other measure that so far has been working. But don't stop the entire community from being able to give each other gifts on that.

Squeenix does NOT listen to the NA community.

They'll sure take our money tho...or they used to. I mean they'll still take our money when monthly fees come in and if we want to hold weddings but if we want to buy someone a mount we can't do that because there's some odd chance that someone stole money even though we're buying it for a friend, but apparently we aren't supposed to have friends even though this an MMO and some how China is involved in all of this and...

[Ransu]

honestly, what was their plan with this? I figure they knew the community would have been pissed off. It also doesn't make sense on a profit level. A LOT pf FCs and Discord servers do giveaways and tournaments where you can win mounts etc., SE just cut off those profits + the subscription money from the people that actively engaged with that content. I have a friend who also plays and sometimes we liked to surprise each other with a gift from the mogstation too, but i guess thats gone now :/

They clearly saw the numbers and came to the conclusion that the level of RMT's/Chargebacks/Purchases made with stolen cards was greater than the general use of gifting otherwise they wouldn't make this change to begin with.

[Stormpeaks]

They clearly saw the numbers and came to the conclusion that the level of RMT's/Chargebacks/Purchases made with stolen cards was greater than the general use of gifting otherwise they wouldn't make this change to begin with.

Or it's just another ridiculous decision taken by SE, which isnt the first one that happened lately.

Stop with the excuses

[kpxmanifesto]

If they actually did listen, the community would have been surveyed to get their opinions and not just slapped on it at the end of their "rework"

That would be "too much work" for SE. Predictably, they're more than content to choose the lowest effort blanket solution.

[Stormpeaks]

That would be "too much work" for SE. Predictably, they're more than content to choose the lowest effort blanket solution.

It is a small indie company after all, please understand.

As I said in another thread, maybe we should start a gofundme so they can afford to ban RMT, they are obviously too poor to afford it.

/s

[Kio]

I really beg them to walk back on this decision. The friendlist requirement is fine, but limiting what you can gift altogether is a step too far and really hurts the players and community.

[Ransu]

Or it's just another ridiculous decision taken by SE, which isnt the first one that happened lately.

Stop with the excuses

Its hardly excuse. We don't know the metrics, we can only assume the reality that the level of rmt/theft was greater than the general use of gifting. Its common business sense. They wouldn't make a change like this and potentially have negative PR if the RMTing wasn't a major issue with most of it being used by stolen cards.

[Deveryn]

Some light reading to give some more insight into this situation.

[Stormpeaks]

Its hardly excuse. We don't know the metrics, we can only assume the reality that the level of rmt/theft was greater than the general use of gifting. Its common business sense. They wouldn't make a change like this and potentially have negative PR if the RMTing wasn't a major issue with most of it being used by stolen cards.

You act as if this is the first time they try and tackle RMT and the only thing it does is hurt the legit players and doesnt even touch RMT'ers.

In the end, the only ones losing are the real players, nothing is more fun than wanting to surprise someone and having to give them the money so they can buy the surprise themselves, that is just so much fun.

[XaarKrey]

Its hardly excuse. We don't know the metrics, we can only assume the reality that the level of rmt/theft was greater than the general use of gifting. Its common business sense. They wouldn't make a change like this and potentially have negative PR if the RMTing wasn't a major issue with most of it being used by stolen cards.

All they really added was tracking gifts origin and destination. And preventing people from banking codes during a sale to sell when it's full price again.

Which they could have improved the item code generation system to track destination and take note at the redemption locations as well. Just redo how the item codes are generatedto accomadate that.

And then add a 10 day expiration date to reduce resale.

There's a solution for both issues they might have had in regards to rmt.

And if they're really afraid of rmt giving free (suspicious?) gifts, or duplicates to one character, they could just implement a "reject gift" option which returns to sender the cash. (Or crysta if theres a cash flow issue)

They didn't have to turn off mount gifts. There's other solutions they could explore. And this is just one of them.