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    Katt_Felista's Avatar
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    Katt Felista
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I truely don't care about the vocal minority of RMT apologists/defenders on these forums that need to get a real job, these topics make more views from normal / legit players that are now aware of it's scale and the more they know the better they don't fall into these traps and maybe stop feeding this machine, because let's be honest, savages aren't the hardest raid content there is in any game, they are pretty much a dance dance R of muscle memory after a few weeks of doing them. These Rmt communities are just as aggressive as they feel their side pocket money threatened, a tad less so on the forums then they are in game tho.
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    Last edited by Katt_Felista; 10-25-2022 at 05:47 PM.

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    Shibi's Avatar
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    Lala Felon
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    Zurvan
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Katt_Felista View Post
    "RMT vendors will often obstruct normal players gameplay activity"
    The Japanese quote in question is

    RMTによって現実での利益を得ることだけを考えた行動をするため、他のプレイヤーの邪魔をすることも含めて、利用規約を守る意思がありません。
    "Often" isn't used as far as I read it (which admittedly isn't great). Just "They act solely for real-world gain through RMT and have no intention of abiding by the TOS, including not interfering with other players."

    However, good. let's hope they do something as:

    Should you witness any RMT activity, we ask that you contact us using the in-game reporting menu, which can be found under [System Menu] -> [Support Desk] -> [Contact Us] -> [Report Cheating].
    Always got a reply "don't talk to us, lodge it on the webpage" in the past.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

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    Aeonna Calvados
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    Ultros
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Please get help.
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    what would be a hilarious twist is that Katt's main is a hardcore RMT'er

    i choose to believe it
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I did notice that they FINALLY got rid of those fishing bots in Mare Lamentorum, so they do seem to actually be making tangible progress at last.

    I feel motivated to try getting them to do something about the marketboard bots again.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 10-25-2022 at 10:39 PM.

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    Nav_Fae's Avatar
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    Mizuchi Hikaze
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I don't even care about ythe RMT anymore. The damage is already to far done. Housing prices ruined by RMT, market board bots, Eureka, everything is so ruined it cant be restored. Its to late now
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    I don't even care about ythe RMT anymore. The damage is already to far done. Housing prices ruined by RMT, market board bots, Eureka, everything is so ruined it cant be restored. Its to late now
    The bolded part confuses me. RMT has no influence over housing prices. Those are set by the developers and are actually less than they were when housing was first introduced. Purchase of housing with the intent to resell is prohibited under the ToS so there is no legitimate player influenced market price.

    As for the rest, yes RMT has had some serious effects. But damaged things can be repaired if you remove what's causing the damage. We need to get rid of those who do business with RMT so RMT goes out of business.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Question is…..WHY is it so easy to have bots around in this game? Can’t they change something that makes it harder for bots to exist in the first place? Instead of having to go around reporting, just cut them at the source.
    Cutting them off at the source would cut off real players at the source as well.

    That's why the gaming industry has such problems with bot activity. They have to find the pieces of code that would only affect the bots and not players. Then the bot programmers turn around and find new ways to get their bots to operate and the cycle repeats. Do something to counter bot/RMT activity that also affects players (like end the gifting of popular items) and the player base gets angry.

    Botting and RMT will continue to exist as long as there are players who want to cheat the game systems. If you want to get rid of the bots and RMT, then get rid of the cheaters who rely on them. Bots and RMT will disappear when they don't have any customers.

    Quote Originally Posted by SassyAssassin View Post
    Hm yes of course, I guess Im asking because I only played one other mmo before which was eso (years ago) and bots weren’t really a topic so I wonder what did they do differently?
    Which MMO, out of curiosity? I've never played a MMO that didn't struggle with bot problems.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 10-28-2022 at 07:31 AM.

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    Tim Brady
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Sir, this is a wendys
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    Xaruko Solo
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    Seraph
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    The only thing obstructing my gameplay is now the inability to gift mounts.
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