Dear Paladins...

[Aceofspades]

Here ya go.

Taken straight from Kaeko's enmity testing:



Flash: 363
Provoke: 568

So at one point at least Provoke did generate more Enmity than Flash.

Now some of these have changed since then (like the flat blade and skull sunder modifiers, which were mentioned in patches), but no further testing has been done afaik, and most values haven't changed. And here's a thread you might want to read: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ation%29/page1

While you're at it, check out worthless DEF becomes as mob levels are higher than yours:
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...entry?e=317908

I have seen the charts , but what i have never seen is the raw data, as far as the numbers you got for enmity, question 1 is on what job, voke on war is gona be stronger then pld and same can be said for flash on pld over war, second question is what program was used to accuratly guage these numbers, simply posting numbers and saying "heres your proof" is pointless. if that was the case then i could say

provoke = 3 hate

flash = 300 hate

and that would be suffice to prove your chart up there wrong, not saying its inaccurate, yet, but I would love to know what program was used to determin those numbers or if this guy is simply pulling numbers outa his ass because thats what he thinks each voke is worth....

also, if this was done prior to jobs, and judging by the fact that there are no jobs listed, i would guess it was. If it was done prior to jobs then , I would have to say that voke prolly did have a strong hate pull because you could equip mrds traits as well as their abilities. soo either way you proved nothing other then when faced with looking like an idiot you get desprate and post any nonsense hoping the oposition dosent know anybetter.

Again as for your hp vs def charts, you can post charts all day brother , they mean = squat, when i was tested by a pld who stacks hp , and has triple teir 4 melds on almost all their gear, they openly admited i took roughly 250 damage less per hit. they usually get hit for over 600, that, my friend, is over 30% damage mitigation, this I can prove/ simply meet me anywhere , in any fight and I will prove it, raw , unaltered, unbiased data.