Brian from Work 2 Game is leaving FFXIV

[Atelier-Bagur]

For sure I've always said I've liked a lot of changes, a lot of them have been positive for sure, this expansion has been very mixed for me overall, I get annoyed because theirs so many good things like a new example is adding hard dungeons + exploring ones, but having a negative basically no reward for doing the harder dungeons. In general though I'm pretty happy about the new form of content.

You generally see more negative "news/videos/comments" because they're the most vocal group, does it mean its wrong for them to be unhappy about a change they don't like no it doesn't, aslong as they're being constructive and not attacking people personally (I take big issue with how people act towards the devs sometimes).

We need to be mindful that it's ok to be positive or negative about a video game, what changes you'd like or not.

To me a lot of the games faults for me is just in general from the game. Not necessarily because EW alone. Honestly the most critical I can give to the additions added in EW such as IS and V&C dungeons is better rewards. Although with IC it's also just me expecting them to add more features and to please for the love of Hydaelyn let this content eventually be where we can build a house. The personal instance is already there!

[kpxmanifesto]

Just finished watching the video. He brings up a good point about SE being risk averse:

"It's a game that just doesn't take risks. It's a game that we advocated for risk taking, but either they're just too burnt by the original launch, too scared, or from a financial perspective, just isn't in their best interest, and I can respect that, but I wish they would - I wish XIV was a game that took risks." - 7:40 in the video



And of course raises the issue about the toxic positivity of the community:

"it's become a game where the idea that it could improve is such an insult to people versus where in New World, saying the game could improve everybody gets excited... where in XIV it's a very defensive and in a way insecure kind of defensive. I was always kind of confused by that mindset." - 11:20


Good video. Sad to see a player like this leave the community, but I wish him the best of luck nonetheless.

[Rithy255]

To me a lot of the games faults for me is just in general from the game. Not necessarily because EW alone. Honestly the most critical I can give to the additions added in EW such as IS and V&C dungeons is better rewards. Although with IC it's also just me expecting them to add more features and to please for the love of Hydaelyn let this content eventually be where we can build a house. The personal instance is already there!

My major issues rn is the whole raid buff burst changes, now gonna effect my main job (PLD) to a point where i don't know if I'm going to really enjoy playing it anymore.

I think a lot of people dislike the general raid buff changes in EW. I think a lot of the games "simplicity" issues do actually stem from SHB

EDIT:
Its also if people like the recent changes, not saying that's a bad thing. Some people prefer more simplicity I believe we need a mix of both in job designs.

[Cach]

The same people spending a lot of time and effort trying to burn a guy they claim not to know or follow will turn around within the hour and call other people "toxic".
Absolutely astounding.

I don't really follow streamers beyond being my personal patch-reading machines. But hey, going against the orthodoxy, voluntarily dropping a meal ticket and a free invitation to wankfest takes some courage. Good on him.

[Payadopa]

Maybe or maybe not but you have to see that FFXIV is becoming stale and Yoshi doesn't take risks to invigorate the game anymore. Look at the variant dungeon and how lackluster the rewards are. Island sanctuary was very lackluster in what we got to do.

I find that pretty disingenuous. We just got new stuff like IS and CD & VD. In ShB we got Bozja. Yes, it could be more, but they do take risks. Also, rewards (or lack thereof) have nothing to do with taking risks.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I find that pretty disingenuous. We just got new stuff like IS and CD & VD. In ShB we got Bozja. Yes, it could be more, but they do take risks. Also, rewards (or lack thereof) have nothing to do with taking risks.

I think when people say taking risks they mean "rework FFXIV again" because indeed it's very disingenuous to ignore the new forms of content we're getting and it's just people getting burnout over a 10 year old game that stayed with it's formula. Which is why I think Brian is excited for New World because it's a relatively new MMO that's finally taking it's stride with recent content patch.

FFXIV has already started to take it's age in the market and it's honestly not its fault. People just want to go for newer things and I feel that's also ok in of itself.

I know for me at least, I play FFXIV because I want to play FFXIV regardless of its faults. I want the game to continue to improve upon itself but not in a way where it drastically needs to constantly change itself or take a lot of risks.

[Midareyukki]

Heres food for thought, harsh reality in fact.

You are on a camping trip, make a mistake, portage across a river , realise you are now 50 km from where you started, its getting dark, its getting cold and you discover your compass is broken.

What do you do.

You are on a walking trip and get separated from your friends, night is falling, you are lost, your phone wont work and you need to survive till morning, because only an idiot tries to navigate the bush at night with no directional help and no map. You have no camping gear, no tent,. no tarps, no food no water

What do you do.

Heres step one: maintain a positive mindset and think on how you will get out of this alive, you dont let the negative emotions or fear get the better of you.

According to that article, thats "toxic positivity"

According to me thats called "I dont want to be a corpse so I will be positive and find a way to survive overnight"

...I recognize that I'm in deep shite, don't ignore the crap that's going on and actually do something about my predicament.

Except what often tends to happen is that then you have random people show up, just as lost as you are, but tell you to ignore the issues and enjoy being lost. Stop whining that you're in danger, enjoy the moment and explore.

At no point should you allow yourself to be consumed by the fears and do nothing but whine about your situation, that's true. It doesn't solve anything, it doesn't get you anywhere, and odds are you're just more likely going to make those fears come true faster than otherwise.
But when you have so many people with their heads buried in the sand that refuse to help you, that refuse to acknowledge that they're on the same situation, that it might get worse for them if they don't cooperate with people and make the situation better for everyone (ie: find a way out of the woods AT LEAST so that everyone can return home when they so please), you just feel lonely and demotivated.
Plus, if you have this many people also tell you to ignore the issues (not focus on them, ignore entirely!), either you feel resentful at those people and never come back to this place next year for your camping trip, or you become complacent and turn into one of them because of false consensus.

At some point people NEED to recognize something's changed and that it's not going well. And rather than whine that people brought attention to it, strive to understand what happened and provide reasonable feedback. Otherwise, screw it, why bother?

You don't want to be a corpse? First step is recognizing you're F'd. Then it's staying calm, not go overboard, and work to find a way out. But holy hell there are PLENTY of people here actually willing to become corpses, it just doesn't faze them whatsoever.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I mean, if you're not having fun anymore then you can leave. You shouldn't force yourself to play a game that, for you, used to be fun but is now only boring. Same thing happened to me with the first Overwatch.
And if the gameplay is still not fun, then I would unsub, if I were you. Just a game. You don't owe your life to it or anything lol.

Its sad to see people go.
But its even sadder that people anchor themselves to any videogame so heavily

[Jeeqbit]

A lot of people don't like how casual the content can be, but if they did the opposite, "took a risk" and made it like how I am told WoW has been where people spend all day every day just preparing for raids, then the casuals would be the ones dissatisfied. Mechanisms exist to allow you to create your own grindy content such as mount, minion, glamour or achievement farming without forcing others into it.

[aveyond-dreams]

Sad to him go but has a life he has to do which is important. Also he has discussed that the community has changed over the years and doesn't feel the same anymore. I been in FFXIV for 8 years and it has changed over the years. Toxic positivity has been rising, constructive criticism is booed off.

There is times I have thought of quitting FFXIV myself. I feel like content has been lackluster for a while and the things people want changed just doesn't happen. If the rate the game has been going will this really last 10 more years? IDK I hope it does but also the game itself has been feeling stagnant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eh8...el=GingerPrime
I posted his vid if anyone wants to see it

The feeling that I've had this expansion with so many controversies and "meh" additions is that we're headed towards maintenance mode instead of 10 more years of a game worth sticking around for. Longer time between patches with hardly anything to show for it, and content that can't last more than 2 weeks.

CBU3 needs to get it together already. And pray that FFXVI doesn't tarnish their reputation further, though with Yoshi being more restrained there than he is in FFXIV I will hope that better sense prevails and that the mainline series isn't sunk due to the decisions of the person who thought introducing Blue Mage and the limited races in their original states was ok.