What was they thinking when they did variant dungeons and criterion

[DPZ2]

Over the past 10 months he's destroyed a decade's worth of my goodwill. I was one of this game's biggest fans prior to Endwalker and now "missteps here and there" have become one after the other, combined with all the other baggage like limited jobs and the limited races that caused their own controversies. I'm through with defending or excusing his actions. He needs a reality check, which he would've gotten if any of the clear and direct feedback left on here by the groups of players he's upset with his decisions ever made it to the dev team.

There is exactly one thing to do when your decade's worth of goodwill has been destroyed: Burn it all down to the ground. Salt the earth. Leave no prisoners.

You're doing a great job there.

[vanaii]

its part of the forum culture.

You are missing the world's largest air quotes. Tourists will travel from hemispheres away to see the world-famous air quotes.

[Ransu]

I'm going to cackle if they tie the relic to running this repeatedly. There's your longevity.

They said relic grind would be similar to ARR/HW, but ya I wouldn't be surprised if the new dungeons played heavily into the relic grind and honestly I'd be ok with that.

Over the past 10 months he's destroyed a decade's worth of my goodwill. I was one of this game's biggest fans prior to Endwalker and now "missteps here and there" have become one after the other, combined with all the other baggage like limited jobs and the limited races that caused their own controversies. I'm through with defending or excusing his actions. He needs a reality check, which he would've gotten if any of the clear and direct feedback left on here by the groups of players he's upset with his decisions ever made it to the dev team.

You don't even have a level 90. The door is over there, help yourself out of it.

[VelKallor]

Over the past 10 months he's destroyed a decade's worth of my goodwill

Im sorry to hear that. Maybe take a break for a while?

. I was one of this game's biggest fans prior to Endwalker and now "missteps here and there" have become one after the other, combined with all the other baggage like limited jobs and the limited races that caused their own controversies. I'm through with defending or excusing his actions. He needs a reality check, which he would've gotten if any of the clear and direct feedback left on here by the groups of players he's upset with his decisions ever made it to the dev team

What "groups", aside from yourself, you dont speak for anyone else..and Im actually surprised you still cling to this odd notion

You dont speak for NA, OCE, EU, SG, SEA..so who are these "groups" you allude to? The less than 150 or so people who post here arent representative of anything or anyone either.

[VelKallor]

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if some of the forum's white knights were paid by Square Enix to do what they do.

[vanaii]

we do it for free

In all seriousness though, I've dunked on Square for dozens of things in the past: housing placards and Eureka come to mind. I still hate venue ad spam, sorry not sorry.

Just because I don't think yoship is the devil because some people on the forums had a mad over Endwalker doesn't mean I'm going to defend Square for everything. I just happened to like Endwalker, and don't consider a release with a 92 metacritic rating an excuse to drag yoship through the mud even after he pulled off the impossible and three expansions before we got to the current day people are having a mad over.

[Cach]

Endwalker has been consistently divisive. Consistently.

True. Criterion rewards, class balance every new raid tier (healing, phys ranged), gearing, housing, etc. They are at least acknowledged by the playerbase on several platforms. You wouldn't be wrong to call this expansion at least a bit "controversial".

Why does every single piece of content have to be long lived?

Wasn't the "no content left behind" philosophy one of the points of pride of this game? Specially standing up against wow?. Why wouldn't people want to have longer lived content?

I will keep saying this, but this game relies heavily on hooking people with the constant drip of perishable goods, and lately they have been more perishable than ever. You really feel that extra time added to the patch cycle.
Maybe you believe that the quick consoom model is your speed. That's fine. I happen to think that is, uh... unwise and it could be improved upon.

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if some of the forum's white knights were paid by Square Enix to do what they do

Naaah, most of the time it's just a messed up sense of loyalty, ready to turn on a dime at Yoshi's / SE word.

[VelKallor]

we do it for free

We do it because its true. I remember looking back when the Endwalker delay was announced, remembering Yoshi's face..I used to look like that after a 12 hr stint in the ER..he was exhausted. All I was thinking was "God man when did you sleep last?" If I had a team member who looked like that?

Id send him home in an instant.

No one says the game is perfect, I have never said that, but looking at all the work he and his team have put in, the quality of the game, I LOVED THE MSQ, I for one appreciate and thank him for all the work he has put in.

That sneer about connectivity? Did we forget the pandemic and the STILL ONGOING shortage of hardware, chips etc? You DO realise that as it stands, the backlog wont be cleared for more than a year? You cant make servers with no materials, and no materials are coming when the major companies that manufacture them have been shut down and their staff sent home.

Naaah, most of the time it's just a messed up sense of loyalty, ready to turn on a dime at Yoshi's / SE word

Word of advice if you ever go into business. The majority of your costs are in acquiring customers, if you have a successive and strong retention rate and strong customer loyalty, grats you did it right. The hard work is in KEEPING customers, churn and burn has a way of biting you in the rear after a while.

My loyalty aint misplaced or "messed up", I however am nowhere as jaded, as cynical or as prone to unnecessary criticism over small matters that are more a matter of opinion than they are objective fact.

So guess what, customer loyalty is something to be PROUD of, it means you have succeeded.

[DPZ2]

Naaah, most of the time it's just a messed up sense of loyalty, ready to turn on a dime at Yoshi's / SE word.

Or, you know, mostly it's people whose opinion does not coincide with your own. That happens a lot in life.

I, personally, do not think of Naoki Yoshida at all when posting. Attempting to paint someone as "messed up" because their opinion differs from your own is, well, "messed up".

[Midareyukki]

True. Criterion rewards, class balance every new raid tier (healing, phys ranged), gearing, housing, etc. They are at least acknowledged by the playerbase on several platforms. You wouldn't be wrong to call this expansion at least a bit "controversial".

I feel like that's the word I should have used. But :| eh, it didn't come to mind, so sue me.

Endwalker's obviously praised. As is every expansion thus far. I'm even wrong, there was actually MORE hate toward Stormblood than there was toward Endwalker. Because if I remember right, the general mood even on Reddit was "SB was okay, but really bland and torn between two places, and Zenos isn't interesting". Endwalker is blessedly better received on that aspect, people just don't tend to like how rushed the plot was and how some elements were underplayed (Garlemald and the Final Days specifically). Some people don't like Venat and Zodiark, whereas on that front I'm just "eh" about it.

Otherwise I'm enjoying this expansion. I just am not blind to drops in quality and they are there. Nor do I excuse them with "Yeah but they saved ARR so it's fine". To me it's not, it was fine at first with them delaying the expansion and the yikes release. But after so long I drew the line, and that's when I started saying "Okay, what the hell". I didn't suddely develop acute selective amnesia and forget all the good stuff the devs have done like I keep being accused of. I HAVEN'T forgotten that according to Yoshida, some people in the team worked behind his back to get Viera and Hrothgar some headgear in SHB and I was and AM thankful to those people (assuming the story is true and not a PR stunt). But that doesn't stop me from saying "ok what the hell" when they take the decision to chop off ears. I'd have the same reaction if they decided to delete Lalafell hands just because some gear pieces were starting to get glitched on them.

Just because you criticise the devs in their flaws, it doesn't mean you hate them nor that you cannot recognize their virtues Okay? Okay.