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    U'tabia Aisibhirwyn
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    Noir Hat (and others)

    I don't know why I bothered thinking that this hat would be any different; but the team has forgotten that Miqo'te are a thing again.
    The last, and I think only hat, of this expansion that's taken Miqo'te ears into account is the Artifact Armour equipment; Everything else cuts off my ears.

    This may not seem like a big thing, but this is one thing in a (seemingly) ever expanding list of little things that added to the game, and that the dev team just isn't doing anymore.

    I'm sure there's reasons, but its not up to me to make excuses for why things aren't being done. And while this isn't going to make quit by any means, how many grains of sand does it take to make a heap?
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Miqo'te (and sometimes elezen and lalafell) ears have been getting cut off by headgear since at least Stormblood.

    Still faring better than viera and hrothgar, at least.
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    I honestly prefer this to the ridiculous ear-pouches we had before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    I don't know why I bothered thinking that this hat would be any different; but the team has forgotten that Miqo'te are a thing again.
    The last, and I think only hat, of this expansion that's taken Miqo'te ears into account is the Artifact Armour equipment; Everything else cuts off my ears.

    This may not seem like a big thing, but this is one thing in a (seemingly) ever expanding list of little things that added to the game, and that the dev team just isn't doing anymore.

    I'm sure there's reasons, but its not up to me to make excuses for why things aren't being done. And while this isn't going to make quit by any means, how many grains of sand does it take to make a heap?
    Au Ra supremacy I fear, our horns can and will clip through every hat and helmet under the sun
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    You can always give unsolicited advice, it's always morally correct

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    At least you *can* equip it.
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Quote Originally Posted by SylvAlternate View Post
    Au Ra supremacy I fear, our horns can and will clip through every hat and helmet under the sun
    And everything else, for that matter. Not something I miss after changing to viera. Sure I can't wear 90% of hats, but before I couldn't wear most of the chest pieces I wanted to without looking stupid.
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    Cyric Eladriel
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    I made a post about removing racial traits a while ago, but it didn't last long.
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-racial-traits

    It's not just ears, but tails are also being ignored or completely removed from items, and the trend is getting worse and worse as the community doesn't care. A plus point for the Hrothgars, as after the complaint about the removal of their ears, SE started implementing little ears on the few helmets they might have.

    And does it seem strange to remove Hrothgar and Miqo'te's small ears? Now imagine the Abyssos helmets, which completely remove those of the Vieras, those huge ears that you can tell from afar are missing.

    For the company, it's much easier to make everyone Hyur, they don't need exclusive models, and the community won't care (other than the Hrothgars who complained, these will get exclusive items until the dust settles and the company feels they can put Hyur items on them again).

    But it's like someone said in my post

    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    I'll say this again...

    About 90% or more of the gear that took racial traits in consideration are just based on gear that was already implemented by Tanaka's team before Yoshida took over.
    The first thing Yoshida decided regarding gear modelling was practically ask fans if they wanted quality (but unique models would take longer to be made) or quantity (but gear would lose detail, and we end up with less headgear that respects ears, less concern with tail clipping etc). Apparently at the time people asked for quantity without realising it.

    Once they had to start pushing new models on their own that was literally it.

    Tanaka and 1.0 had many problems. Attention to model detail was definitely not one of them. They did that significantly better. Down to visible swappable belts and ear holes/sockets in everything where it made sense.
    the game is involuting, and most don't care.

    Quote Originally Posted by SylvAlternate View Post
    Au Ra supremacy I fear, our horns can and will clip through every hat and helmet under the sun
    Beware. Enshroud is there to prove that now skills can also remove all racial traits from you, and your horns are definitely gone here too.


    EDIT: By the way, I think one of the big reasons Hrothgars and Vieras don't have their hats is simply because the company doesn't want to make items exclusive to any race, and these two would definitely need that on some hats.
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    Last edited by Adamantini; 10-23-2022 at 10:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lelila38 View Post
    I honestly prefer this to the ridiculous ear-pouches we had before.
    I mean.. you say they're ridiculous; but they made sense. Having ears crammed down under a metal helmet isn't a good thing, there would need to be some allowance for head-shape and ear position on helmets made. Maybe not earsocks, but something to show that "hey, this helmet/hat was made with a miqo'te in mind". Heck.. i'd take just cutting a hole in the helmets so our ears can stick out.
    Edit: And there are historic examples of animals used in war to have their ears taken into account when making items for them. Actual horse armour is a thing, and always took their ears into account when crafting the headpiece and Spanish Conquistadores made equipment for their attack dogs that allowed their ears to be exposed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Adamantini View Post
    Beware. Enshroud is there to prove that now skills can also remove all racial traits from you, and your horns are definitely gone here too.
    Yeah.. I can't say I'm too happy about the Enshroud thing either. The job is fun, but this is just another grain of sand that will be on the scales down the line.

    I don't know if I should, but I want to blame XVI for a lot of this. We had gear that took racial traits into effect until end of Heavensward, and some of Stormblood; And I think that's about the time that SQEX started shaving off XIV team members off to work on XVI. Maybe I'm wrong and I just want to grasp onto the hope that when XVI is done, the team members will return and there will be an uptick in quality.. who knows. All I know is that I'm not happy with the direction this stuff is going in and want something to change.
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    Last edited by frostmagemari; 10-24-2022 at 12:04 AM.

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    Yuki Yagami
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    I just want to wear the hat so I could do a BlazBlue Hazama cosplay*cries in Viera*
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    Last edited by Bunnycake; 10-24-2022 at 09:55 AM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allegor View Post
    Hrothgar so done with being second class that they summon their own primal to give them hair.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    Matsya is an elephant. I cant blame them for not casting the voice to a talking elephant.

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    Player SassyAssassin's Avatar
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    Cinnabun Arulaq
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    That’s because you can squish the ears underneath the cap.
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