Please unify the right.

[Liam_Harper]

min ilvl for P7S/P8S is 610. Yoshi-P wants you to go healer, play healer. all you need is a full set of HQ Rinascita gear. congrats now you can switch to healer. higher ilvl gear is just the reward for playing, 1st week balancing aside, the bar for gameplay has always been player skill. all the bis gear in the world won't matter if you suck. Yoshi-p's response to complaints? he'll say GIT GUD. sure people like to see that avg ilvl on their profile climb ever higher. big numbers make ppl go brrrrrr. but ultimately Yoshi-p don't care.

No.

I'm not walking into a raid 2 months in wearing 610ilv. Could I pull it off? Maybe. But I'm making the raid harder for the group than if I was on my main. I'll do less damage, have less health, if someone forgets mit I'll die and others won't. That's not fun and doesn't feel good. If I want week one challenge I'll make a min ilv group.

Yoshi can say whatever he likes, if it's not fun it's not fun.

[Dreamsoap]

Because there’s a PF healer drought. Whether it be increased healing and mitigation demands or people are tired of healing or what not PFs are not getting filled out and always missing healers.
This was brought Up in Q&A of the 14 hour stream and
YoshiP responds “then play healer yourselves.”
Players “with what gear, we’re already half way invested into our main roles. We can’t afford to swap to another role mid tier.”

TLDR
PF needs healers. YoshiP tells players to go heal. Players are willing to heal but can not justify getting healing gear mid tier because of the gear and time gate system.

Feel like other half of the story is how frustrating it is to play healer in savage, let alone PF. You spend a lot of time perfecting a rythym with your own group and co-heal that lets you actually PLAY your support dps how Yoshi P designed it to be. But that all falls apart the moment you step into PF with terrible attitudes of the eternally blameless players, c-heals who secretly hope you carry the heals and whatever syngery you can honestly even pull out of a group of complete randoms. I'm struggling to believe there's a large group of people who would jump at the chance to go heal PF savage for no reason. Honestly gear gating is only the half of it.

[angienessyo]

Nah. People shouldn't be given gear easily. If you aren't willing to work for it, you shouldn't get it.

I'm BiS already, I put in the work to gear up and now want to gear up alt jobs. It's been quick to get raid pieces no one wants but everyone needing multiple twines/glazes makes gearing alt jobs extremely tedious.

[Midareyukki]

Nah. People shouldn't be given gear easily. If you aren't willing to work for it, you shouldn't get it.

The one thing I don't understand about this and the rest of the stuff that's been mentioned is the argument here... because there technically is an alternative to getting gear. It's just slow. You get twines and stuff with Sacks of Nuts. All you need to do is either do hunt trains or do daily/weekly hunts. Perhaps even both. The rest is all tomestones. You won't be BiS, but you'll be decently geared to get to savage eventually, which does give you the rest that you need to be BiS.

And idk about you guys º3º but that's not "working for it" for me. Savage would be working for it. Mindlessly killing some critters out in the wild and getting tomestones is just "playing through the game", not really a sign of effort.

[ForteNightshade]

No.

I'm not walking into a raid 2 months in wearing 610ilv. Could I pull it off? Maybe. But I'm making the raid harder for the group than if I was on my main. I'll do less damage, have less health, if someone forgets mit I'll die and others won't. That's not fun and doesn't feel good. If I want week one challenge I'll make a min ilv group.

Yoshi can say whatever he likes, if it's not fun it's not fun.

The irony with people puffing out their chests and simply telling others to "GIT GUD" and "you don't need BiS!" is said players being told this have taken Yoshida's advice... by playing other games while they wait for BiS. Evidently, the system isn't working since he's had to beg people to play healers. Granted, there's more to the healer shortage than gearing but the devs' stubbornness gear progression is being met with equal stubbornness from the playerbase. At least from those of us who have already cleared.

I, for example, don't need to touch Savage ever again. I enjoy doing so for fun. It isn't fun if I'm playing a gimped job with barely any gear. And don't people around here always insist "if the content isn't fun, you should take a break!"

We're simply following yours and devs advice.

[Elizasylen]

Feel like other half of the story is how frustrating it is to play healer in savage, let alone PF. You spend a lot of time perfecting a rythym with your own group and co-heal that lets you actually PLAY your support dps how Yoshi P designed it to be. But that all falls apart the moment you step into PF with terrible attitudes of the eternally blameless players, c-heals who secretly hope you carry the heals and whatever syngery you can honestly even pull out of a group of complete randoms. I'm struggling to believe there's a large group of people who would jump at the chance to go heal PF savage for no reason. Honestly gear gating is only the half of it.

Yes that is a part of it and really supports why healers do need every little bit of gear they can get. Not saying that you can actually heal through bad playing but every little bit helps. I also think it's better to try to play and learn healer than wait forever in PF for the healer that will never show up. There are many problems yes, I'm just trying to come up with solutions.

[DrWho2010]

People say it isn't fun to play gimped with barely any "good" gear. while this may be true it is up to each individual to make this decision. This is allllll a "you" problem.

Yoshi-p will simply just counter with ilvl is this, we've gone as far as we're going to go on this. Do the japanese care this much about this subject? I'm guessing not otherwise we would have seen changes on this by now.

There is healer shortage because the tier is actually a bit harder to heal than previous content and a lot of people are going "waaaaaaahh it too hard waaaahhh". And then yes you get randos in PF who have no idea what mitigation is (addle, feint, etc.) because they've never had to think that hard before either and you have a recipe for the storm that we have now.

[hagare]

whoa. That is some title xD

[RyuDragnier]

There is healer shortage because the tier is actually a bit harder to heal than previous content and a lot of people are going "waaaaaaahh it too hard waaaahhh". And then yes you get randos in PF who have no idea what mitigation is (addle, feint, etc.) because they've never had to think that hard before either and you have a recipe for the storm that we have now.

This exactly. People need to stop blaming the healers if they themselves are not using mitigation to help. If the party wipes despite said mitigation? It likely IS the healers fault at that point (unless your gear isn't up to par).

[Bukachu]

They could just remove needless timegating just to milk more subscriptions lol