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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    If you look up that poster on the Lodestone and check Achievements, you can see that indeed they have not cleared any recent savage tier. Furthermore, looks like they wait until Savage can be unsynced and only clear it then.
    I don't clear savage at all, aside from when I did blue mage. Ya'll are bad enough in extremes on PF and I don't care to try and find a decent static anymore. It's not worth the stress. What I even do has little to do with anything. I at least play the game.

    but while we're peeking, where are your final extreme mounts or your morbol mount? (Let me guess, "this is an alt") You're a sprout and you're trying to call me out on my own activities which clearly outdo your own.

    EDIT: This is not a flex. This is calling out hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I don't clear savage at all, aside from when I did blue mage. Ya'll are bad enough in extremes on PF and I don't care to try and find a decent static anymore. It's not worth the stress. What I even do has little to do with anything. I at least play the game.

    but while we're peeking, where are your final extreme mounts or your morbol mount? (Let me guess, "this is an alt") You're a sprout and you're trying to call me out on my own activities which clearly outdo your own.
    this the weirdest attempt at flexing ive ever seen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I don't clear savage at all, aside from when I did blue mage. Ya'll are bad enough in extremes on PF and I don't care to try and find a decent static anymore. It's not worth the stress. What I even do has little to do with anything. I at least play the game.

    but while we're peeking, where are your final extreme mounts or your morbol mount? (Let me guess, "this is an alt") You're a sprout and you're trying to call me out on my own activities which clearly outdo your own.

    EDIT: This is not a flex. This is calling out hypocrisy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    this the weirdest attempt at flexing ive ever seen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    how smug to not notice he edited it after I posted, but please continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    how smug to not notice he edited it after I posted, but please continue.
    I did notice. His edit was obvious BS.

    If your reaction was one of dis pleasure, which it seems to have been, then you appear to be misjudging who, exactly, my post made an insinuation about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I don't clear savage at all
    Then you have no business coming into a thread about endgame gearing since it doesn't matter to you because you don't do savage.
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    Player AwesomeJr44's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I don't clear savage at all
    Then stop acting like you know literally anything about how raiding or gearing for high-end content works. It's very obvious that you've never even touched raiding. Your opinion is worthless as you know nothing about what you're speaking on. Stop pretending like you know what you're talking about and let real raiders do the talking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    but while we're peeking, where are your final extreme mounts or your morbol mount?
    You heard it here everyone! Savage raiders are required to farm out EXs for potentially 99 totems (even if they hate the mount) and participate in a very niche section of the game to know how savage raids and high-end gearing work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shenlao View Post
    So the guy really went in here to argue against something that doesn't affect their own experience but would improve the experience of many other players. People on this forum ain't normal.
    He's a known example of an Official Forum White Knight. There's plenty of them on these forums. They'll argue against something that'd be objectively good if it means they're against someone who is slightly unhappy with the game. It makes no sense why they do what they do until you put yourself in their mindset.
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 10-21-2022 at 02:20 PM.

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    Then stop acting like you know literally anything about how raiding or gearing for high-end content works.
    i dont do high end stuff in FF 14, but have LOADS of exp in other MMO's, raided mythic, heroic over the years, so I DO know WITHOUT having to do it here. I probably know more than you do from that past experience.

    There goes that misconception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    i dont do high end stuff in FF 14, but have LOADS of exp in other MMO's raided mythic, heroic over the years, so I DO know WITHOUT having to do it here.

    There goes that misconception.
    If raiding experience in other MMOs is so applicable to this one, then Deveryn clearly hasn't done actual raiding in other MMOs either. If he did, basic concepts from this game wouldn't be so foreign to him. (either that, he's so tone deaf that he apparently doesn't understand the basic idea of wanting gear of a higher ilv, or his experience from other MMOs isn't applicable to begin with) The point still stands. Deveryn has no idea what he's talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    610 gear is not that hard to obtain, you know.
    True.

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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 10-21-2022 at 03:59 PM.

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    If raiding experience in other MMOs is so applicable to this one.
    It is, yes.

    or his experience from other MMOs isn't applicable to begin with
    Wrong, the principles are the same, iteration and specific processes are a separate matter entirely. There are specific principles and dynamics that apply across the board, base game design and paradigms havent changed that much over the years.

    Things like ilevel creep, tuning are also a factor, then we get into the matrices of gear vs class balance vs encounter design and it gets...complicated..to put it mildly.

    Gaming at its core has certain..patterns....that underlie all design criteria, of which high end raiding is but one part. it is, in fact a MUCH bigger picture, each of which has to be applied and balanced accordingly.

    Coarse and then fine tuning is an exacting process...at times it can be..infuriating. Nothing is ever perfect, nor can it ever be..thats its nature.

    I submit you know far less than you imagine.

    Vel's Rules, book one page ten

    When you have the chance to learn something new, when someone wants to teach you something new, when the chance comes, grab it, it may never come again. Sit down, shut up and LISTEN.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 10-21-2022 at 04:25 PM.

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