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    Player Deveryn's Avatar
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Excalibur
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
    Well the fact that Ultimates are tied to Savage tiers is one. Ultimates require near top ilvl to clear current, and PFs usually require Highest ilvl - 1 or 2. You can't get those numbers on multiple jobs consistently even if you clear week 1.







    This is also just not true, at least for the savage version of criterion. People were hitting dungeon enrage on the savage version at the highest ilvl. And mind you, this content was practiceable through the hard mode, so the savage was not blind progged. Players were already somewhat optimal with damage. Hitting near the enrage 20 ilvls higher than minimum is doom and gloom for someone trying at min ilvl. This is content released merely 8 weeks after savage. You again need more gear to realistically do this content.
    And where is this Ultimate that people need to clear? Another 8 weeks away maybe?

    Going back to my point about the rush: Everything is paced so that you can get what you need by the time the next content comes out. If you're not doing ultimate and just want to clear savage at some point or just have much better gear, maybe it's better to just wait til x.1 x.3 or x.5 when you can more easily grab those upgrade bits from nuts and alliance raids.

    It's Day 3 of V&C. There's plenty of time to figure things out.
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    TomsYoungerBro's Avatar
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    Tim Brady
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    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    And where is this Ultimate that people need to clear? Another 8 weeks away maybe?

    Going back to my point about the rush: Everything is paced so that you can get what you need by the time the next content comes out. If you're not doing ultimate and just want to clear savage at some point or just have much better gear, maybe it's better to just wait til x.1 x.3 or x.5 when you can more easily grab those upgrade bits from nuts and alliance raids.

    It's Day 3 of V&C. There's plenty of time to figure things out.

    Your point still falls short since crafted gear isn't going to get me into ultimate on an alt job XD. I'm not sure what your point is here. How will Yoshi P ask me to please play healer for the ultimate when I simply couldn't even if I wanted to?
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro View Post
    Your point still falls short since crafted gear isn't going to get me into ultimate on an alt job XD. I'm not sure what your point is here. How will Yoshi P ask me to please play healer for the ultimate when I simply couldn't even if I wanted to?
    he doesnt raid, he doesnt know you are required to be bis or near bis to even bother with ultimate content
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    Ivan Moondiver
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 80
    As a non raider is painful, i still need 3 more tome accessories + a single weapon for tank (which luckily i already have the Ultralight Tomestone) to get almost full ilv620 (with Purgatory or Rinascita as 2nd ring ilv610). Rest are forced to get the latest crafted set\purgatory (and some jobs i still use the latest dungeon gear).

    There could be something to ease up a little for alt jobs with the tomes? Not asking to be immediate uber geared but at that point it's a lot of time and sub spent for a single role\class
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