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    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Gear acquisition rate and the general design for getting gear in this game imo is perfectly fine. My only real complain is I wish there was a system in place that allowed me to progress earning gear on my other jobs as well. I'd play significantly more often if I could gear the other jobs I find fun instead of being shoehorned into only gearing up a single job every tier and everyone else is far behind until they "unlock" everything which is pointless because the tier resets like 3 weeks later.

    I love not having to have multiple characters for other jobs, but at the same time, everything being on one character does have this one major flaw compared to other games where the lockout didn't mean as much cuz I could log into another character and gear them up as well.
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    Mia Maine
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    Lich
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Gear acquisition rate and the general design for getting gear in this game imo is perfectly fine. My only real complain is I wish there was a system in place that allowed me to progress earning gear on my other jobs as well. I'd play significantly more often if I could gear the other jobs I find fun instead of being shoehorned into only gearing up a single job every tier and everyone else is far behind until they "unlock" everything which is pointless because the tier resets like 3 weeks later.
    this is quite literally, one of the major points of the post.

    sfia's #1 point was:
    1. The rate of gear acquisition from tomestones is too slow considering the game is heavily advertised and enjoyed as a "one character can play all jobs" system.
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    Elizasylen's Avatar
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    Senba Torii
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 100
    I play Tank in a static. We gear our DPS first, as most statics do and should be. Increasing firepower gives the best improvement to the group. I do not contest this.
    But it feels so bad to give up shine after brine after twine week after week. I'm half way done gearing my WHM alt already with pieces nobody wants and 3 of the DPS still need multiple upgrade materials.
    There really need to be another system that allowed Tanks and Healers to catch up, Criterion was a great opportunity that was lost.
    Honestly it's like week 10 already. Let me buy them with tomestones already, having to wait 4 weeks to upgrade a piece not even because of bad drop RNG but just a matter of fact that there is only 1 of each per week is awful.
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    ElysiumDragon's Avatar
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    Mimilla Milla
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    Archer Lv 92
    As someone currently progging P8S, I wouldn't mind seeing some changes to the loot system.

    For example, the tome cap being increased from 450 to 500, to allow players to buy a non-leg/chest piece with their weekly tomes.

    I also would like to see the augment materials more evenly spread out, as P5S often becomes irrelevant after players have their BiS accessories. If P5S dropped the accessory augment, P6S the gear augment, and P7S the weapon augment, doing the fights would probably be more fun.

    I also believe augment materials themselves should be able to be earned through Criterion Savage, as they're often the hardest item to obtain in significant quantities (up to 30 for an 8 person static).

    I'd also like to see Savage unlocked a lot earlier than it currently is, maybe the first major patch after a tier's released, so 6.3 in this tier's case.
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    Elizasylen's Avatar
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    Senba Torii
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ElysiumDragon View Post
    As someone currently progging P8S, I wouldn't mind seeing some changes to the loot system.

    For example, the tome cap being increased from 450 to 500, to allow players to buy a non-leg/chest piece with their weekly tomes.

    I also would like to see the augment materials more evenly spread out, as P5S often becomes irrelevant after players have their BiS accessories. If P5S dropped the accessory augment, P6S the gear augment, and P7S the weapon augment, doing the fights would probably be more fun.

    I also believe augment materials themselves should be able to be earned through Criterion Savage, as they're often the hardest item to obtain in significant quantities (up to 30 for an 8 person static).

    I'd also like to see Savage unlocked a lot earlier than it currently is, maybe the first major patch after a tier's released, so 6.3 in this tier's case.
    Absolutely agree with the augmented. It honestly wouldn’t be so bad if not everyone needed almost the same things. Like the Tomestone chest and boots are basically bad across the board. However there’s like no jobs that desire the Abyssos legs. Almost everyone except i think Striking prefer Tomestone legs. In my static were literally got no one that has it for BiS but everyone and literally everyone wants augmentation.

    As a tank I’m in line just waiting for the DPS to get all taken care of before i can even get considered for gear. It’s for the better good of the group but it feels pretty bad tbh
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    ElysiumDragon's Avatar
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    Mimilla Milla
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    Spriggan
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    Archer Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Elizasylen View Post
    Absolutely agree with the augmented. It honestly wouldn’t be so bad if not everyone needed almost the same things. Like the Tomestone chest and boots are basically bad across the board. However there’s like no jobs that desire the Abyssos legs. Almost everyone except i think Striking prefer Tomestone legs. In my static were literally got no one that has it for BiS but everyone and literally everyone wants augmentation.

    As a tank I’m in line just waiting for the DPS to get all taken care of before i can even get considered for gear. It’s for the better good of the group but it feels pretty bad tbh
    I'll add my own experiences to this as well.

    As a DPS, I've won precisely zero augments through drops, and only managed to buy A coating with books after a month's worth of clears. With my gear as is (i625), the only progression I can continue to make is through augmenting my existing tome gear, augments that everyone in my static is still rolling against me for. Augment materials are IMO far too scarce, and another means of earning them would be most appreciated.
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    Silke Silke
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 73
    This has been a problem for a decade now. You think they’re gonna change it now? Lol. This game is about designing with the least amount of effort at the lowest cost relative to most amount of subs they get for it.
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    Senba Torii
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Libby9 View Post
    This has been a problem for a decade now. You think they’re gonna change it now? Lol. This game is about designing with the least amount of effort at the lowest cost relative to most amount of subs they get for it.
    You miss 100% of the shot you don’t take.
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    Wise Fuchsia
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    Phantom
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I would like for them to utilize more content when it comes to BIS gearing and secondary stats. Just having the 24man pieces in the catch up patches being upgradeable with some Savage books or w/e to similar ilvl and different secondaries would be a nice step for some variety and making them less one and done content to high end people.

    There's a lot of potential with Criterion and other alternate sources too, if they feel spicy they could even mix in PvP stuff or have things like the EX weapon upgradeable to bit short of upgraded tome weapon earlier in the patch cycle.
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    Eros Maxima
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by ThaCa View Post
    Just having the 24man pieces in the catch up patches being upgradeable with some Savage books or w/e to similar ilvl
    This is a very underrated outlook, I think. The ability to upgrade gear outside of the hardest content, using items from the hardest/difficult content, to its relevant ilvl. Obviously it'd have to be restricted in minor some way, but would be an interesting experiment for at least one expansions lifespan. For better or worse.
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