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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Europan Raiding Central discord has like 30 static recruitment offer each day and that's only counting the english ones. I never had any issue finding other players despite our static's
    I dont know what you are trying to defend. Am i need to join people who search now for p7s prog?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    I dont know what you are trying to defend. Am i need to join people who search now for p7s prog?
    Just today there are four different offers of static looking to prog P7S on ERC.
    I don't know you, what job you're playing and what's your schedule. But the idea that it's impossible to start progging P7S on EU is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazhar View Post
    Just today there are four different offers of static looking to prog P7S on ERC.
    I don't know you, what job you're playing and what's your schedule. But the idea that it's impossible to start progging P7S on EU is wrong.
    Again, you probably missing my point but w/e you can call a bunch of casual statics "alive region" as you wish.
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    Everything but the 2nd point is off. Gearing is more than fine, and really aside from doing more limiting on variance for high potency substats are fine right where they are. Also as to the static bit, if you are looking and can't find one you are either lying about looking, or are undesirable; pick one
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Gearing is more than fine
    I think people like you are too gigabrain to be afk on forums, maybe its time to apply for world prog groups?

    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    Basically, they feel left out of the "good" static scene because, for whatever reasons, they couldn't join a roster before that. While I don't think it's true, and that you can find good people progging well even two months after the release of new content, I can't blame them for not being willing to try, since even if they CAN find a good static, chance is they'll probably try one or two statics that won't be good for them, and that's a waste of time for everyone involved. If they're naturally introverted, it can be pretty exhausting to do.
    I have spammed same message about group for couple months so well you got my point, if you want to play seriously on eu you have old friends who play there or idk leave to na.

    And i dont want to let down some casual people but i sometime see messages from same people in lfg channel, again calling this raiding scene alive is an insult tbh, compare this to NA or JP, there are statistic about p8s clears released recently too
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    Last edited by Stasya; 11-05-2022 at 01:37 AM.

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    While I kinda do agree with you, Kazhar, I think what Stasya means is that she doesn't want to join a roster that's still stuck on P7S W9 (or 10, I don't know anymore), because they're supposedly people that will take one more month or more to kill P8S.

    Basically, they feel left out of the "good" static scene because, for whatever reasons, they couldn't join a roster before that. While I don't think it's true, and that you can find good people progging well even two months after the release of new content, I can't blame them for not being willing to try, since even if they CAN find a good static, chance is they'll probably try one or two statics that won't be good for them, and that's a waste of time for everyone involved. If they're naturally introverted, it can be pretty exhausting to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    I think people like you are too gigabrain to be afk on forums, maybe its time to apply for world prog groups?
    The recognition of my skill is appreciated, but I don't have the patience for that many hours in a week
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    Last edited by FireMage; 11-05-2022 at 11:31 AM.

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    Gearing is not slow unless you want for multiple jobs at once, current system makes sure you pick your favorite job to kit out first so there is a chance for some skill in the game... if want to do it same pace all classes, make one alt for each one of the jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Gearing is not slow unless you want for multiple jobs at once, current system makes sure you pick your favorite job to kit out first so there is a chance for some skill in the game... if want to do it same pace all classes, make one alt for each one of the jobs.
    ...did you actually even read the post? Because that's part of the complaint. One of the game's selling points is being able to play all "classes" on a single character, except you actually can't at the higher end, you're locked into whichever job you decide to gear first.
    And no, making an alt for every job you want to play is not a solution. At that point it's just flat out worse than WoW's, ESO's or Guild Wars 2's class system, because those atleast give you some variety while you grind to max level.

    Not to mention that almost all cosmetics, mounts and minions are limited to a single character, including those you pay actual money for.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 11-06-2022 at 12:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    ...did you actually even read the post? Because that's part of the complaint. One of the game's selling points is being able to play all "classes" on a single character, except you actually can't at the higher end, you're locked into whichever job you decide to gear first.
    And no, making an alt for every job you want to play is not a solution. At that point it's probably worse than WoW's, ESO's or Guild Wars 2's class system, because those atleast give you some variety while you grind to max level.
    Because you can, you can kit out character entirely with previous generation gear or use crafted, you may be off 10 ilevels for a while, but that is it, it wont make you stop being able to use your character for pretty much any content in the game as it is.
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