Endgame gearing in FFXIV

[Imora]

Going forward I'd like to see Square Enix take a leaf out of WoW's book. For PvE gearing, Mythic+ and Raiding can reach the same peak of the item level curve entirely independently of each other and you can do high level Mythic+ keys without ever needing to raid. Likewise the inverse is true if you like raiding but don't want to do Mythic+. This would require Criterion dungeons to be fleshed out into a system that's ready at the start of each raid tier so you can enter with the crafted/normal mode gear and progress to the same need point.

In general I do think the pace of gearing is far too slow, especially if you want multiple gear sets to be as powerful as possible on multiple jobs while playing a single character. Definitely feels like it's balanced solely to keep you playing longer and subscribing for more months per raid tier... although that's a somewhat expected design decision for a subscription MMO.

WoW has the problem of M+ not being restricted to a lockout meaning you grind the hell out of it to get the best gear from it week one, invalidating two tiers of raids before you do your X 15s for the week and collect your free mythic item level loot from the vault.

It's a terrible system.

[Lunalepsy]

Gearing up is pointless in this game. Just wear sexy glamours!

[RobynDaBank]

Lol, the FFXIV system may suck, but careful what you wish for with WoW's system of loot. There's no coffers, no books either - tokens became a thing only in the last season (which they said is "experimental") - and expansion by expansion they're making it harder to gear within M+ by raising the max Key you need to do to get the best iLevel items - which will always be worse than Mythic Raids. You get the highest iLevel item only from the weekly "Vault", from where you pick only one item out of maximum 9 (3 each for raid, M+ and PvP if you fulfil all requirements).

And no, you can't do M+ Keys without raiding. Have even a slight knowledge of essential BiS like Trinkets and you'll be proved wrong.

[Yeastyloins]

The main that kills me about loot is the lack a variety in terms of gear acquisition with specifics to farming tomestones to cap. I wish there was more varied ways to farm tomestones in a week. Especially since once I hit cap for the week, it opens the option for me to be able to use my roulettes for example to level alt jobs.

Lol, the FFXIV system may suck, but careful what you wish for with WoW's system of loot. There's no coffers, no books either - tokens became a thing only in the last season (which they said is "experimental") - and expansion by expansion they're making it harder to gear within M+ by raising the max Key you need to do to get the best iLevel items - which will always be worse than Mythic Raids. You get the highest iLevel item only from the weekly "Vault", from where you pick only one item out of maximum 9 (3 each for raid, M+ and PvP if you fulfil all requirements).

And no, you can't do M+ Keys without raiding. Have even a slight knowledge of essential BiS like Trinkets and you'll be proved wrong.

The Vault's shitty RNG has nothing to do with FF14's gearing issues. If WoW lives rent free in your brain, why don't you go over here and work some of that out: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/

[Stasya]

The Vault's shitty RNG has nothing to do with FF14's gearing issues. If WoW lives rent free in your brain, why don't you go over here and work some of that out: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/

Thats a typical se white knight trying to derail "wow bad so we wont do anything in ff14"

[RobynDaBank]

Thats a typical se white knight trying to derail "wow bad so we wont do anything in ff14"

Wha? That's some very unnecessary hostility. I was talking to someone who said the game needs WoW's system, literally just scroll up. I just didn't quote them because I couldn't snip neatly on phone.

You people can get very insufferable. GL getting supporters on your side with that attitude.

[Reinha]

I'm not having any problems with gearing in PF. This week I got the last twine I needed with books. I'm 629 on my main and 620 on my alt even though I started a week late and went 3 weeks without any drops.

The biggest problem is that I haven't been able to see all of p2 because I can't find a party that can get to the mechanic they aim to practice. Any static want a Reaper who can't commit to a set raiding schedule?

[Derio]

PF simply expects you to play on your main. Thats it. People set the ilvl to 610 or 615, even 620 now because they expect you to be past crafting gear. So if you have been gearing one job and suddenly want to do what Yoshi P suggested and try healer you have to create your own group but no one is going to respect your group because the ilvl you set is low.

But then there is another problem because raiding is the only way to increase ilvl beyond 620. Realistically after 8 weeks you can start gearing another job. Thats if you are serious and start day 1 but a casual player probably wont clear the 4th fight week one and not everyone is lucky enough to win loot every week even when in a static.

Literally running p7s every week for a 1/8 chance to get a twine or wait 1 month to get a guaranteed 1 twine from 4 books for 1 job just to do it all over again for the next piece when you need 3 twines so at worst after 3 months you can have 1 job geared. Who would want to do that same thing on another job? That is why most people just play one role/job while the other jobs simply get scraps.

[Kazhar]

SE white knights forcing find static meme so much yet there is no ingame system to find one, you have to rely on third party stuff and also literally how alive your region is (cries in eu again)

Europan Raiding Central discord has like 30 static recruitment offer each day and that's only counting the english ones. I never had any issue finding other players despite the fact that our schedule has to accomodate to two different night shifts.
I'm not here to defend the gearing system and I understand that statics are not fit for everyone, but EU is not dead if you want to find one.