Endgame gearing in FFXIV

[LittleImp]

Maybe in the future people who aren't affected by what is talked about here just learn to shut up and let improvements happen based on feedback from people that are actually affected. But I guess for clowns like above me can't stop pretending to give out opinions on things they have no clue about.

White knights don't appear reasonable because they're never acting in good faith. Their core objective is to defend the game and the company that creates it, and all of their apparent beliefs and opinions about systems within the game are basically just performative. That is to say, their stances aren't derived from rational consideration of each individual issue or game system; They're just projections of the already forgone conclusion that aspects of this game cannot have flaws. That's why they're so prone to ridiculous mental gymnastics and authoritative hand-waving

[Liam_Harper]

Love the guy that doesn't have any savage experience talking about how the loot system is fine. Keep defending this shit while pf is dead as fuck in certain regions and doesn't let people easily jump around on alt jobs to help out people.
Good chunk of my friends already unsubbed cause waiting hours in pf cause shit doesn't fill is very enjoyable.

"It keeps people subbed!"

People are literally unsubbing because it's not fun.

"You're meant to take breaks!"

Then why can't we change it?

"Uh ...it keeps people subbed!"

[Ransu]

Love the guy that doesn't have any savage experience talking about how the loot system is fine. Keep defending this shit while pf is dead as fuck in certain regions and doesn't let people easily jump around on alt jobs to help out people.
Good chunk of my friends already unsubbed cause waiting hours in pf cause shit doesn't fill is very enjoyable.

Maybe in the future people who aren't affected by what is talked about here just learn to shut up and let improvements happen based on feedback from people that are actually affected. But I guess for clowns like above me can't stop pretending to give out opinions on things they have no clue about.
Like sorry but mr crafted gear that hasn't killed a single savage boss this entire expansion yes you're fucking unqualified to tell others about how the loot system is fast enough.

Like the logic with which people are defending this shit would have blocked pretty much all changes to the loot system we already got like coffer changes etc. It's actually so unbelievably how stupid the arguments are.

Why are you and your friends not making a static together then? Seems like blaming the gearing system is just a cover for your laziness. The gearing system is perfectly fine and significantly better than other mmos Go play rng swtor and tell me this games gear progression is bad lol. The only thing that is annoying is being unable to gear alts, but the actual system itself with drops/tomes/books is perfectly fine.

[Akonyl]

Why are you and your friends not making a static together then? Seems like blaming the gearing system is just a cover for your laziness. The gearing system is perfectly fine and significantly better than other moms. Go play rng swtor and tell me this games gear progression is bad lol. The only thing that is annoying is being unable to gear alts, but the actual system itself with drops/tomes/books is perfectly fine.

"Other MMO is worse" is not an argument as to why this MMO is fine. And considering the first point in the OP is about gearing alts, I don't know how you can try to respond as if alts aren't an issue, because ease of gearing alts is directly tied to the system used to give out gear (drops/tomes/books).

The system is good, but it's not perfect. Being good "enough" isn't a reason for saying that improvements shouldn't be suggested.



Personally, I only actually ever play BRD, so I don't need any changes to the system tbh. But I can see why others would, and I think some sort of system that let you easily gear an alt job after gearing your main may be useful.

[Stasya]

aha didn't know you can make a static with only 4 people(pls don't even start typing just find 4 other people lul) -> also disregards that leading a static actually takes a ton more work/effort than pf life, also disregards that some of my friends don't necessarily play at the same time as me every week since we're all working adults and some work at different times.
Also disregards that we all are smart enough that we 4 wouldn't even want to raid together because our level of play is different enough 2 of my friends just wouldn't mix. Our expectations on what we'd want out of the experience is just way different.
Making a static isn't a real solution to the party finder experience having become significantly less active than first tier.
Like when raiding becomes that inaccessible despite there being possible systemic solution I'll just stop playing to be honest.

Gearing problem affects both static splits people (what if bad tome bis rng gl waiting weeks for tomes for no reason) and pf only players.
"Solution" : just make static 4Head

No wonder i have this guy on ignore list here.

I have cleared p1-3s/p5-7s week 1, p4s week 3, p8s week 4 (very cool rng with hc2 traps), i play for more than a year and i still cant find savage static on DEAD EU REGION (this tier i got bis week 10 very cool, thankfully its useless since no one does logs on EU, i cant play the game, system doesnt even let me help other players because i will give them -1 chest)

And all these white knights can do is post pointless useless trash something something just find a static, statics are not affected!

[LysDusoir]

Gearing problem affects both static splits people (what if bad tome bis rng gl waiting weeks for tomes for no reason) and pf only players.
"Solution" : just make static 4Head

No wonder i have this guy on ignore list here.

I have cleared p1-3s/p5-7s week 1, p4s week 3, p8s week 4 (very cool rng with hc2 traps), i play for more than a year and i still cant find savage static on DEAD EU REGION (this tier i got bis week 10 very cool, thankfully its useless since no one does logs on EU, i cant play the game, system doesnt even let me help other players because i will give them -1 chest)

And all these white knights can do is post pointless useless trash something something just find a static, statics are not affected!

It's not just a PF problem as well, I started this tier out in PF and then eventually found a static.. Yet, even in a static I haven't been able to get a single twine drop this entire time. I would ask for it every week, explaining how it would be a rather large improvement for me to shift away from tenacity(lel) into more optimal substats; and still, I just went unheard. All of the DPS in the group had 2-3 augmented lunar pieces, and the RDM that has been absent for two weeks rolls need on it even though they can buy twine with books by next reclear.. So, it was basically inefficient for the entire raid for them to roll on it.. I will need two more weeks of guaranteed twine or 8 more weeks of books just to reach BiS, to top it off the statics policy for p8s2 is weapons/chest to DPS first, and who is to say that after one of the DPS gets what they want that they don't just "take a break" or "call off". I am the only person in that static that has even cleared p8s2; after asking for twine for weeks(with me saying I desperately need just one), I quit. This loot system is awful, there is no excuse nor any defense when far better options have been suggested, when it is clear that there could be a far more fair way about things, not to even mention that in my case it is completely impossible for me to get even just one alt job to where I would like it regardless of if I put the time in to reclear every week.

[Ransu]

Aha didn't know you can make a static with only 4 people(pls don't even start typing just find 4 other people lul) -> also disregards that leading a static actually takes a ton more work/effort than pf life, also disregards that some of my friends don't necessarily play at the same time as me every week since we're all working adults and some work at different times.
Also disregards that we all are smart enough that we 4 wouldn't even want to raid together because our level of play is different enough 2 of my friends just wouldn't mix. Our expectations on what we'd want out of the experience is just way different.
Making a static isn't a real solution to the party finder experience having become significantly less active than first tier. Like when raiding becomes that inaccessible despite there being possible systemic solution I'll just stop playing to be honest.
But honestly it's amazing how you couldn't even come up with any reasons yourself, like are you for real? Do you even know what it takes to raid savage? It sure doesn't seem like it... given how I think that anyone that would raid savage in PF just understands why they're doing that. Like contrary to what some people believe people aren't skipping joining statics cause they like being dicked over by the pf team roulette. They play in PF because that's what their life style allows for, it's simple as that.

But why even detract from the topic from this actual thread with some nonsense that is completely irrelevant. Like I hope you do understand me and my friends even if we were to make a successful static these problems just don't disappear and even if we assume it would work for my case I hope there at least enough braincells left to process that it's not a real solution for most players that play with pf. People have reasons for not playing in statics and it's good for the health of the game that content remains pf accessible but sure disagree and call people that aren't going the extra mile to participate in this content lazy.

Also for sure interesting that this question that is completely irrelevant and serves no actual point except just be anti changes comes again from another clown that doesn't actually seem to participate in PFing savage. Pls why do you people feel the need to even post in here. It literally doesn't affect yall.

Like anyone arguing against this is honestly a freaking weirdo. Like you're arguing against the wish of people of being able to play more jobs in party finder. What an absolute horror and how can players be so entitled???? Everything is fine stop demanding changes that won't affect myself. I hope people can look into themselves and actually realize how cringe that shit is.

Literally your entire rant comes down to its a you problem lol.