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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    From talking to her in her garden, I get the impression that she's not a voidsent at all, but a descendant of the Mhachi.
    Very possible as well- not sure as she refers to Gruff as a child and seems to exert a degree of power over them.
    Powerful voidsent? Descendent/controller of voidsent contracts? Benevolent lich?

    Shame it’s relegated to a minor seasonal event as it has lots of potential.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    Something bugs me about Zero if she can revert back to her normal self through Aether then why has this not happened with past voidsent? I don't think there was any lore eluding to that.
    Zero is technically 1/2 voidsent and was essentially birthed human with void corruption. We aren’t sure if the other voidsent are entirely new entities, corrupted people or if they even have an uncorrupted form.
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    Scarmiglione and Barbariccia were once humans
    Corrupted by the darkness like Sin Eaters were by light. Atleast that's what it seemed like in that one side quest with the multi eyes voidsent... the only difference it seems between them and Zero possible is she was born with the powers to turn them into crystals and have a sort of partial ward put on her due to her mother being one as well. Though that's just a guess.

    Also, and I could have misinterpreted this, but didn't she say the form she had when we met her was due to Zenos?
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    An autistic person checking in, right here. No, Zero likely isn't autistic - she's just poorly socialized due to living in a Literal Hell for twelve thousand years. She's also a character who by design clearly cares a great deal, while trying to pretend they don't. I won't say flat out that she's neurotypical, but I sincerely doubt that her demeanor is due to her being on the spectrum in particular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    From talking to her in her garden, I get the impression that she's not a voidsent at all, but a descendant of the Mhachi.
    If you talk to her as a reaper, she has an extra line about warning you about the danger of making a contract with voidsent.
    So yeah, definitely sounds like a Mhachi descendant to me.
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    Lol at all these folks trying to push their ideological IdPol language, as someone with autism please dont refer to us as "neurodivergant". Its gross. I'm not neurodivergant I'm a dude with a minor disability and if a cure existed I'd take one in a heartbeat, because there is more to me than a vaguely defined illness.

    That said I can see why youd think she was autistic, I certainly never met an insanely popular autistic person. That and the complete lack of social skills makes it so things check out. But I'd say being in the void for years and years probably has more to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Lol at all these folks trying to push their ideological IdPol language, as someone with autism please dont refer to us as "neurodivergant". Its gross. I'm not neurodivergant I'm a dude with a minor disability and if a cure existed I'd take one in a heartbeat, because there is more to me than a vaguely defined illness.
    And different people feel differently about that. I'm autistic/Aspergers and I wouldn't be me without it. Those traits are part of my personality and can't be sifted out without changing me at a fundamental level.

    As for Zero, I see no need to leap to the conclusion that Zero is autistic because she is confused by a literal foreign concept (which we are doing a rubbish job of explaining to her). It's more that she's from a society where the concepts of social skills and small talk are nonexistent. The reason autistic people have trouble with social skills is that they're bad at picking up cues from others; Zero has never had the opportunity to pick those cues up. Different causes, similar result.

    (I've said before and will say again, if you're looking for Aspies among the FFXIV cast, then Urianger seems the obvious one to me.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lustre View Post
    Lol at all these folks trying to push their ideological IdPol language, as someone with autism please dont refer to us as "neurodivergant". Its gross. I'm not neurodivergant I'm a dude with a minor disability and if a cure existed I'd take one in a heartbeat, because there is more to me than a vaguely defined illness.

    That said I can see why youd think she was autistic, I certainly never met an insanely popular autistic person. That and the complete lack of social skills makes it so things check out. But I'd say being in the void for years and years probably has more to do with it.
    You played yourself. I'm also autistic. I was one of the people who said "neurodivergent". Like Iscah, I don't consider myself diseased and just that my brain works different. Now what?

    Also weird that you're autistic but use the same broad brushstrokes about autistic traits that non-autistic people use. Disappointing.
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    But friendship is not a foreign concept to voidsent. Just Zero.

    Zero is weird among voidsent. The only one who seems to have trouble interacting with others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrotica View Post
    But friendship is not a foreign concept to voidsent. Just Zero.

    Zero is weird among voidsent. The only one who seems to have trouble interacting with others.
    Voidsent friendship seems to be centered around "food" rather than bonds so interacting with a group built around bonds would make her seem weird in comparison. plus the duo in her domain seem to be outliers in the thirteenth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidurgu-12 View Post
    Voidsent friendship seems to be centered around "food" rather than bonds so interacting with a group built around bonds would make her seem weird in comparison. plus the duo in her domain seem to be outliers in the thirteenth.
    Just to add to what you’ve said:

    I have yet to see a pair of Voidsent that have a relationship I would classify as friendship. Even the two that appeared to be friends merely stuck together because the other option was both die due to lack of an aether source.

    I stand by what I said on page 1; except for Zero sheltering the few dregs in her domain for seemingly no self gain, we have yet to meet a voidsent that acts altruistically.
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