A game for 4 year olds

[Lyth]

I've really enjoyed reading Mikko's posts, and I feel like they've really elevated both the overall quality and atmosphere of the discussion in this thread. Informative discussions are the real strength of this subforum, and I've missed seeing them.

I'd like to see more about Aerslaent. I don't think that we'll have a reason to travel there anytime soon, but I'm hoping that at least Nyunkrepf and his backstory comes up to give us more information about the region.

[Cleretic]

I'd like to see more about Aerslaent. I don't think that we'll have a reason to travel there anytime soon, but I'm hoping that at least Nyunkrepf and his backstory comes up to give us more information about the region.

Bringing up Aerslaent makes me realize there's a lineup of places that we've only barely heard of, that I still kinda think would be more interesting than just 'Ilsabard'.

The lalafel come from a series of southern islands that I don't even think are on the map. And while we've technically been to Abalathia's Spine as far as, like, regional borders go, we've never been to anywhere you'd actually call 'Abalathia's Spine', like where the Warriors are from; we've definitely only been to the Spine's weird outliers.

(The very local history precludes me to heavily side-eye claims of cannibalistic natives, so I’m hoping that particular pulp adventure trope doesn’t crop up again. The dangling plot thread of the ziggurat Qiqirn and their counterparts bug me, especially as between the Namazu and the Qitari they will never be touched again outside of lore books.)

The Meateater Qiqirn were sort of an odd casualty of the devs changing their mind on something; the qiqirn were originally going to be the Stormblood crafting tribe before they instead went with the namazu and put the qiqirn off until Shadowbringers (I'm not sure if that was due to public response or just them realizing they struck gold while developing Stormblood itself), so their worldbuilding to lead to the qiqirn tribe is still there, but sort of... orphaned. Looking around the Peaks there's a couple places that feel like they could've been the qiqirn tribe's area.

I wouldn't trade either the namazu or qitari tribe storylines for the world, but I do wish we could get a peek at the plan for the SB qiqirn storyline just so we could get a bit of definition for the Meateaters.

[sidurgu-12]

Bringing up Aerslaent makes me realize there's a lineup of places that we've only barely heard of, that I still kinda think would be more interesting than just 'Ilsabard'.

The lalafel come from a series of southern islands that I don't even think are on the map. And while we've technically been to Abalathia's Spine as far as, like, regional borders go, we've never been to anywhere you'd actually call 'Abalathia's Spine', like where the Warriors are from; we've definitely only been to the Spine's weird outliers.



The Meateater Qiqirn were sort of an odd casualty of the devs changing their mind on something; the qiqirn were originally going to be the Stormblood crafting tribe before they instead went with the namazu and put the qiqirn off until Shadowbringers (I'm not sure if that was due to public response or just them realizing they struck gold while developing Stormblood itself), so their worldbuilding to lead to the qiqirn tribe is still there, but sort of... orphaned. Looking around the Peaks there's a couple places that feel like they could've been the qiqirn tribe's area.

I wouldn't trade either the namazu or qitari tribe storylines for the world, but I do wish we could get a peek at the plan for the SB qiqirn storyline just so we could get a bit of definition for the Meateaters.

I would love another "pick your own story" tribe if it was as good or better than the qitari.

[KageTokage]

I do kind of wonder how they're gonna handle the story of the New World once that comes around.

They was already some shades of colonialism in the BLU quests with the Monetarists trying to exploit the situation with the Whalaqee to their advantage, but I think I'd rather see more of an internal conflict between the existing cultures in that land.

[Denishia]

I do kind of wonder how they're gonna handle the story of the New World once that comes around.

They was already some shades of colonialism in the BLU quests with the Monetarists trying to exploit the situation with the Whalaqee to their advantage, but I think I'd rather see more of an internal conflict between the existing cultures in that land.

I want to go to the New World so badly, and at the same time my mix of trepidation and excitement for how a Japanese game will fumble on a setting inspired by the Americas is potent… We’ve already had the conflicts and evils of colonialism addressed in the MSQ and general game worldbuilding, everything about Garlemald but also Limsa in particular and Ul’dah, so I know they aren’t going to hit only sour notes. The war bonnet still makes me a little uncomfortable and doesn’t give me a starting place of confidence, but how Rak’tika and Thavnair were handled soothed some of it. A part of me wonders how much the New World inhabitants, if/when we meet them fully, will be modeled on the Ainu instead, as a more familiar and immediate example. But my limited knowledge of the Aztec and Incan Empires is why I’m so curious for the New World, because I’m interested to see if when that setting is fleshed out if either empire is used as a starting point for the replacement antagonist for the Garleans and what would be done to differentiate them from the aggressively expansionist imperial magitek version we’ve known for a decade now (and what would also make them distinct from Eulmore and Golbez). I know I don’t want “defend Limsan colonial outposts funded by the East Aldenard Trading Company” to be the opening arc to an expansion even if I’ve resigned myself to being exactly the setup building in the background. But even if that’s the thread to have to WoL land on the shores of the New World, the open possibility of the hypothetical central plot excites me.

(The very local history precludes me to heavily side-eye claims of cannibalistic natives, so I’m hoping that particular pulp adventure trope doesn’t crop up again. The dangling plot thread of the ziggurat Qiqirn and their counterparts bug me, especially as between the Namazu and the Qitari they will never be touched again outside of lore books.)

[Eisi]

I want to go to the New World so badly, and at the same time my mix of trepidation and excitement for how a Japanese game will fumble on a setting inspired by the Americas is potent… We’ve already had the conflicts and evils of colonialism addressed in the MSQ and general game worldbuilding, everything about Garlemald but also Limsa in particular and Ul’dah, so I know they aren’t going to hit only sour notes. The war bonnet still makes me a little uncomfortable and doesn’t give me a starting place of confidence, but how Rak’tika and Thavnair were handled soothed some of it. A part of me wonders how much the New World inhabitants, if/when we meet them fully, will be modeled on the Ainu instead, as a more familiar and immediate example. But my limited knowledge of the Aztec and Incan Empires is why I’m so curious for the New World, because I’m interested to see if when that setting is fleshed out if either empire is used as a starting point for the replacement antagonist for the Garleans and what would be done to differentiate them from the aggressively expansionist imperial magitek version we’ve known for a decade now (and what would also make them distinct from Eulmore and Golbez). I know I don’t want “defend Limsan colonial outposts funded by the East Aldenard Trading Company” to be the opening arc to an expansion even if I’ve resigned myself to being exactly the setup building in the background. But even if that’s the thread to have to WoL land on the shores of the New World, the open possibility of the hypothetical central plot excites me.

(The very local history precludes me to heavily side-eye claims of cannibalistic natives, so I’m hoping that particular pulp adventure trope doesn’t crop up again. The dangling plot thread of the ziggurat Qiqirn and their counterparts bug me, especially as between the Namazu and the Qitari they will never be touched again outside of lore books.)

I didn't read this comment but I just wanna say, your Femroe is amazing, I love what you did with face 1, the rarest one probably in the game, you transformed it into something truly beautiful that I have never seen in the game and that deserves a shoutout! ♥ Amazing character

[Denishia]

I didn't read this comment but I just wanna say, your Femroe is amazing, I love what you did with face 1, the rarest one probably in the game, you transformed it into something truly beautiful that I have never seen in the game and that deserves a shoutout! ♥ Amazing character

The best part about playing a Face One FemRoe is that you feel like the main character because you'll never run across your NPC twin.

[SannaR]

I do hope that with rank 8 we will get something with the Ra-La worshipers as they are a miss them if you aren't looking types if they so far have only been seen around during the rank ups since we got formally introduced to them. It would be odd to have the story tell them to go mingle with the other inhabitants in hopes doing so would help them stop being so nihilistic as they are and basically say ahh yes everyone else got it right life does suck and good for for you for developing a hivemind. If our Omnicron business partner can deliver a line that says they don't believe the Ea's theory about how the heat death of the universe being a thing should make everyone hopeless you'd think we'd get just one more scene with those who had such a lovely planet to look at.

[rainichan]

I do hope that with rank 8 we will get something with the Ra-La worshipers as they are a miss them if you aren't looking types if they so far have only been seen around during the rank ups since we got formally introduced to them. It would be odd to have the story tell them to go mingle with the other inhabitants in hopes doing so would help them stop being so nihilistic as they are and basically say ahh yes everyone else got it right life does suck and good for for you for developing a hivemind. If our Omnicron business partner can deliver a line that says they don't believe the Ea's theory about how the heat death of the universe being a thing should make everyone hopeless you'd think we'd get just one more scene with those who had such a lovely planet to look at.

If not the rank 8, then at least an allied quest after the third tribe stuff. So far them just in the background doing nothing but being super nihilistic seems weird to keep unresolved.

[Iscah]

If not the rank 8, then at least an allied quest after the third tribe stuff. So far them just in the background doing nothing but being super nihilistic seems weird to keep unresolved.

Yeah, they're far too conspicuous to not be building up to some kind of resolution.