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    Quote Originally Posted by Brinne View Post
    Only if you want to seriously make an argument that something like the pandemic was actually for the greater good in making people 'strong' and hence societally worth putting us through, millions of deaths included, because suffering like it is necessary for us to 'grow' and 'discover ourselves.'
    I think Endwalker and FFXIV as a whole makes the opposite argument. I don't think that the calamities that the Ascians inflicted on Hydaelyn or all the world ending catastrophies from the Eighth Umbral Calamity (which was explicitly unwritten) to the apocalypses that befell the other stars were in any way portrayed in a positive light.

    The primary point of conversation here is Endwalker's rhetoric and framing, not judging anyone's personal experiences - as I said in my last post, I think whatever anyone is able to draw for themselves from any tragedy to enable them to keep living is valid and should not be policed - but Endwalker would argue on an entirely different scale that a world without the pandemic should be destroyed and replaced with a world with the pandemic, because it would in the long run make humanity 'stronger' and 'better.' That something like the pandemic on a societal scale is actually a blessing in disguise because it at least keeps us from growing too 'bored' and thus wanting to kill ourselves, or something.
    Endwalker argues no such thing. Do you remember that we stop the final days from happening? We don't embrace them or welcome them as a sort of neccessary evil or blessing in disguise.


    "But the Sundering and Venat!" Yeah, yeah.

    What you're doing is you're taking the bad and confusing writing around the Sundering, dynamis and the timeloop, which didn't properly deal with the fundamental issue that Endwalker actually set out to deal with at all and you're making it out to actually mean anything when in reality it already contradicts itself in multiple ways, even outside of the context of the rest of the game.

    You make it seem as though the sh*t and nonsensical plot was actually the stringently following result of a coherent world view that you happen to disagree with, not just a poorly thought-out mess of contradictions.

    Which means that you - at the end of the day - are an Endwalker defender.




    Edit: Censored a swear word.
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    Last edited by Eisi; 11-15-2022 at 03:21 PM.