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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Thank you to the posters who have confirmed that the above is exactly how these quests are going.

    While naturally I long for more Garlemald/Ilsabard focused story content, I don't trust the writers in charge of these power of hope and love quests to write them, nor the ones who took charge of the Garlemald role quest. FFXIV's world is already in shambles, to see it degraded further with the democratisation of Garlemald in tribe quests would put me off them entirely.
    Dude. The Garleans began as a democratic republic and stayed that way for over 600 years before their government was hijacked to become an Empire for a tenth of that time, keeping the senate through all of that. What exactly is your problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Dude. The Garleans began as a democratic republic and stayed that way for over 600 years before their government was hijacked to become an Empire for a tenth of that time, keeping the senate through all of that. What exactly is your problem?
    It doesn't fit his headcanon, it's as simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It doesn't fit his headcanon, it's as simple as that.
    I just can't wait for the "I don't care if there's actual differences between the new governments. I'm just going to label them all as democracies. Even label some of them wrong before their change in governance." Reply that tends to spring up when this comes up.

    @Cleretic the only thing he's claimed that he does do is log in to do leaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Dude. The Garleans began as a democratic republic and stayed that way for over 600 years before their government was hijacked to become an Empire for a tenth of that time, keeping the senate through all of that. What exactly is your problem?
    Aveyond doesn't even understand or adhere to the content they actually claim to like. You can tell by the fact they don't even have something as simple as the extremely evidenced language and naming of the Garleans right. Like, that's not exactly something you can claim is obscure.

    I kind of wonder what they actually spend their time in-game doing. I'm sure they do play the game, I'm just not sure what they're doing in it, because they don't really have any understandings of the game that I'd expect from someone who even had a cursory glance at the story going on.


    On the actual subject of the Omicrons: yeah, this quest was really nice, and carries through in a way that I expect doesn't quite become evident in datamining; from what I'm aware cutscenes can't really be datamined, so you don't get those in any way (I think the only thing dataminers actually got was the journal?). I find it interesting that it revolved around giving a cake more as an expression of kindness and understanding than as actual food; the dragons aren't really interested in food like any of the other races, but the one that comes over still recognizes the gesture when we recreate something that they recognize.

    Plus, the notion of 'cakes that look like things' is something I'm surprised the game hasn't touched on before now! Feels like a natural place to go for a game that has 'Culinarian' as a playable class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post

    On the actual subject of the Omicrons: yeah, this quest was really nice, and carries through in a way that I expect doesn't quite become evident in datamining; from what I'm aware cutscenes can't really be datamined, so you don't get those in any way (I think the only thing dataminers actually got was the journal?). I find it interesting that it revolved around giving a cake more as an expression of kindness and understanding than as actual food; the dragons aren't really interested in food like any of the other races, but the one that comes over still recognizes the gesture when we recreate something that they recognize.

    Plus, the notion of 'cakes that look like things' is something I'm surprised the game hasn't touched on before now! Feels like a natural place to go for a game that has 'Culinarian' as a playable class.
    Yes I really liked the quest. The dragons there are simply too tired to even want to fight the Omicrons, they also know that this wont bring their star back. Yet when the dragon hears that we have talked with a dragon that is alive on another planet he does come to the cafe, even if its just to honor Vidnofir. And there he gets a glimpse of his past back. Or at least what he thought it could be. The dragon is like "how could we forget something like that and now I dont ever want to forget it again" and bascially says that a place that gives them that feeling back cant be bad.

    N-7000 still claims that the original dragons and Omicrons would not have found peace that easily and that it was this place that bascially made it possible. He is also getting way more lively in his interactions with us, bascially deactivating himself because he does not want to be part of the discussion anymore. (Stigma-4 still has the best humor though)

    I just love them and I have read at least two different threads on reddit where people also says that they love it and that for some its even the best beast tribe to date. Seemingly we are all four year olds. :P

    Only negative thing (which is a bit greedy since we already have Elysium): I wish the cafe itself changed more. Maybe include more parts of it with each step. I had hoped that with the dragons we will get the outside too, since they are too big to even fit into that small cafe but sadly that is not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I just love them and I have read at least two different threads on reddit where people also says that they love it and that for some its even the best beast tribe to date. Seemingly we are all four year olds. :P
    I agree that it is one of the best tribe yet for me. Compared to the others which are fun expansion of these tribe stories, this one feels like the epilogue of the Ultima Thule zones.

    It allow us to see how bringing hope in the area and the apparition of the new planet changed the zone and it's inhabitants.
    I thought that these races would have dissappear after some times, but instead we get to see them escape the role made for them by Meteion.

    I also really like how the entire zone and all the races are used there, they actually created a community with varied members, instead of simply being the Omicrons tribe.

    The feeling i have around Ultima Thule is now completely different than when i first started the zone. It's nice to see that all these races aren't just doomed to suffer there.
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    Last edited by RukoBoshi; 10-29-2022 at 10:35 PM.