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    Quote Originally Posted by EgilTheStressedMage View Post
    Yeah, they should just fight and kill each other. Because that worked so well the first time. Though I would like to know what species attacked the Omicron to make them intergalactic conquerors in the first place.
    I suspect it's like with the Garleans: it's not that they had one single nemesis, it's that they were so incapable of fighting back that everything that had reason to take a shot at them did.

    In keeping with the back end of Endwalker having a lot of classic sci-fi, the Omicrons are actually damn near bang-on for Doctor Who's Cybermen in terms of concept. While no version of the Cybermen have ever had their origin in wars (that's more the Daleks' thing), they do have a common theme across various incarnations that it almost doesn't matter what sort of adversity caused them to decide augmenting themselves was the best idea; the point is that they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    I suspect it's like with the Garleans: it's not that they had one single nemesis, it's that they were so incapable of fighting back that everything that had reason to take a shot at them did.

    In keeping with the back end of Endwalker having a lot of classic sci-fi, the Omicrons are actually damn near bang-on for Doctor Who's Cybermen in terms of concept. While no version of the Cybermen have ever had their origin in wars (that's more the Daleks' thing), they do have a common theme across various incarnations that it almost doesn't matter what sort of adversity caused them to decide augmenting themselves was the best idea; the point is that they did.
    Not to mention their backstory is also a dead-ringer for the original Cylons from the 70s Battlestar Galactica (originally reptillian aliens who made themselves into cyborgs, and then eventually became fully robotic AIs, and who then launch a genocidal assault on another sentient starfaring race), but yeah it's definetely in keeping with a lot of EW referencing classic speculative fiction/sf.
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    I suspect it's like with the Garleans: it's not that they had one single nemesis, it's that they were so incapable of fighting back that everything that had reason to take a shot at them did.

    In keeping with the back end of Endwalker having a lot of classic sci-fi, the Omicrons are actually damn near bang-on for Doctor Who's Cybermen in terms of concept. While no version of the Cybermen have ever had their origin in wars (that's more the Daleks' thing), they do have a common theme across various incarnations that it almost doesn't matter what sort of adversity caused them to decide augmenting themselves was the best idea; the point is that they did.
    Yeah - and the Borg from Star Trek spring to mind here too. Granted they're, as their name implies, Cyborgs but I guess one might argue that the Omicrons evolution included a techno-organic stage?

    Eitherway, the origin of the Borg has, to date, never been explored and most agree that it's better that way. Keeping a sense of mystery where their origin is concerned makes them more appealing in my view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Yeah - and the Borg from Star Trek spring to mind here too. Granted they're, as their name implies, Cyborgs but I guess one might argue that the Omicrons evolution included a techno-organic stage?

    Eitherway, the origin of the Borg has, to date, never been explored and most agree that it's better that way. Keeping a sense of mystery where their origin is concerned makes them more appealing in my view.
    Agreed; sometimes it's better to let one's imagination do the heavy lifting. No need to show everything.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I think it was hinted that they bascially where the Garleans of their planet. But unlike Garlemald they were not stopped and thus conquered their whole planet. Afterwards it seems that they were always afraid that some other races from other stars could come and wipe them out. Thus they prevented that by being the one that wiped out others. Until the realisation came that maybe this was all wrong and that they did this for pure destruction.

    Anyways I should really not be surprised that some are already complaining about something which nobody of us have even played...maybe play it first and then post about it?

    I loved the quests we got for them right now and the new zones are beautiful. But I guess for some its too much that a star of pure dynamis reacts on peoples emotions and creates things for them. Maybe we should have gotten someone with creation magic to do it instead. That would be a power that makes sense. /s
    I can't remember specifics but this sounds about right; The Omicrons are essentially the embodiment of the Dark Forest theory (an answer to the Fermi Paradox). That is to say, when encountering another race, it is always better to destroy them first so that a) they can't get you first and/or b) they can't evolve into something that is stronger than you.
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