1.5+ million damage, 8-0 KD, still lost, CC is bad

[Mithron]

Can't push the crystal as MCH if my team sucks more than the enemy team despite me being better than both teams combined ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Doozer]

Can't push the crystal as MCH if my team sucks more than the enemy team despite me being better than both teams combined ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sounds like you need to work with your team better instead of just going for kills or standing on the crystal alone. Communicate. Group up. etc. etc.

If none of those things actually worked, then sometimes you just have to take the L.

I also want to second (third?) that you didn't show your objective time.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

This is the "I got gold damage" fallacy all over again. Unless you provide the following:

- jobs used in the match (you can blur / hide names, but do it in team colours)
- map played
- map duration (how much overtime?)
- actual ranks of each player (there could be a diamond for all we know)
- objective time stat

then there is simply too little info. Especially the "jobs played", because I know jack all which player in this match actually performs within expected stats.

Also without actually having seen the match, it matters little how much damage and kills you pumped and ended with 0 deaths. The kills could have happened where it didn't matter and didn't peel for players that needed it. Heavy / Bind / Stun could've been where it didn't save anything.

There are too many contributing factors here.

[Towa-Musa]

This is the "I got gold damage" fallacy all over again. Unless you provide the following:

- jobs used in the match (you can blur / hide names, but do it in team colours)
- map played
- map duration (how much overtime?)
- actual ranks of each player (there could be a diamond for all we know)
- objective time stat

then there is simply too little info. Especially the "jobs played", because I know jack all which player in this match actually performs within expected stats.

Also without actually having seen the match, it matters little how much damage and kills you pumped and ended with 0 deaths. The kills could have happened where it didn't matter and didn't peel for players that needed it. Heavy / Bind / Stun could've been where it didn't save anything.

There are too many contributing factors here.

the fact he was killing the enemy team and sending them back to spawn repeatedly is literally as helpful as standing on the point lol

[anna-steele]

CC is fine. what do you expect in a game with random team mates and objectives? this types of games will only ever be "good" when its organized teams of 5v5, or if its 1v1. play for fun or dont play at all, pretty much goes for any game. i bet doing all that damage was fun

[VictorSpoils]

This was about 4 months ago but it's generally how Palaistra goes.

[GordonGeeko]

Time on objective is probably the worst metric you can think of to evaluate someone's performance. Especially as a ranged player. And especially as a ranged player that can push buttons, like the OP seems to be.

The people claiming it to be this important probably rush in 1v5 on the objective, die in 5 seconds, stagger their whole team for another 15 seconds and then use the "Push the Crystal!" quick chat, thinking their teammates are the issue.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

the fact he was killing the enemy team and sending them back to spawn repeatedly is literally as helpful as standing on the point lol

It provides no data which jobs he sent back to spawn, whether important Limit Breaks got denied in critical situations or not, if his kills actually created space / air for his team when it mattered or not, etc.

I also don't know if he did 1.5million in 5 minutes or +3-4min overtime without having the information at hand.

I don't deny the numbers being impressive, I just doubt the value until I know more.

There is a reason why we tend to ask for recordings of gameplay because scoreboard interpretation can go wrong really fast.

[Towa-Musa]

It provides no data which jobs he sent back to spawn, whether important Limit Breaks got denied in critical situations or not, if his kills actually created space / air for his team when it mattered or not, etc.

I also don't know if he did 1.5million in 5 minutes or +3-4min overtime without having the information at hand.

I don't deny the numbers being impressive, I just doubt the value until I know more.

There is a reason why we tend to ask for recordings of gameplay because scoreboard interpretation can go wrong really fast.

sure but you cannot deny that he was literally more helpful then his entire team was XD

[Zsolen]

sure but you cannot deny that he was literally more helpful then his entire team was XD

Considering he didn't die and they still won? That means he wasn't on point, when they lost.

We don't have the explanation for that.